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Author : Peter (62.25.109.---)
posts : 332
Date : 02-05-10 14:23
I may not be popular with a lot of you on here for this post but...... I have to comment about taking your children out of school early to save money on holidays. I am preparing to go skiing during half term with my wife and two children.
It does astound me that parents choose to remove their children from school even during exam periods. In my own children’s school a family have gone skiing for two weeks to Italy and their son is in his exam year!!
My wife is Bulgarian and she has to sacrifice travelling back home with the children for her family holidays it’s all part of having children.
I am all for the fines and particularly referring the families to the education welfare officer for taking children out of school (article below). Now that the legality of fining parents for taking their children out of school or fictitious illness has been tested, many local authorities will start to use this tool to keep children in their class where they should be, also its not a bad way of raising funds.
People will post that they have a first from a red brick college and were always taken out of school – well kudos to you - but there are many thousands of children who are being harmed by their parents belligerence and focus on money. I post after listening to this article on the radio-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8496345.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8496345.stm
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Author : fat-bob (---.gate.cable.virginmedia.com)
posts : 111
Date : 02-05-10 14:26
my oldest wont take time off,too important this year,but remember when schools send children on ski trips it is done in term time  |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 124
Date : 02-05-10 15:12
Exactly fat-bob, schools allow it when it suits them.I am taking my partners son with me to Canada on Wed so he is missing three days school but he has been working hard at his studies and I would argue that the trip Is educational as he hopes to do sports science after school |
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 576
Date : 02-05-10 15:18
Peter, Have you seen the prices they charge in halfterm £90 flight at halfterm will be £350, some of us are not made of money,I have had to cancell a holl at this time due to the rip of prices. |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 124
Date : 02-05-10 15:23
Also Jim schools charge top dollar for their ski trips.Ollie and me are going to Panorama for less than a grand,thats for both of us ,lift passes and skis and boots for Ollie |
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 576
Date : 02-05-10 15:29
Wheres me skis, Tell me about it, ive booked 28 Feb me the wife and our youngest son all in half board skis ,lessons ,lift pass. boro £1090. Leaving 2 kids at home due to school. |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 124
Date : 02-05-10 15:35
Looked at Austria for the actual half term week ,about £1100 each plus lift passes and hire,that is a rip off |
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Author : Dan The Man (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 02-05-10 15:41
Edinburgh half term 3* Half Board £438pp I think that's pretty cheap  |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 124
Date : 02-05-10 15:46
Agree but that is last minute and probably not half term in Scotland though I might be wrong.Point is brochure prices and independent flights are a rip off at school holiday time |
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Author : Another Mark (62.189.169.---)
posts : 72
Date : 02-05-10 15:46
An alternative might be to lobby the UK travel industry to stop making windfall profits during half term. Then parents would not be pushed into removing kids during term time just in order to be able to afford a half-decent holiday with all the family.
It's never going to happen of course - supply and demand........  |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 02-05-10 15:47
Spot on Another Mark |
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 576
Date : 02-05-10 15:48
Thats still overpriced by £100pp and its from Edinburgh, and a last min booking i would bet,does that include ski pack?. Its costing me £363pp all in. |
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Author : Sparky (---.static.virginmedia.com)
posts : 614
Date : 02-05-10 15:50
A lot of schools encourage you to take the children abroad even in term time - they say it advances their education - seeing another country and experiencing a different culture and in some cases learning the basics of another language!!!!! |
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 02-05-10 15:50
I agre Mark |
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Author : hannah (193.35.158.---)
posts : 125
Date : 02-05-10 15:55
Well i am taking my child out of school for the week otherwise i couldnt afford to take him on holiday at all..i looked into the same holiday in the half term and was £200 more per person.. this is ok if you can afford it ..Better fit the companies stop ripping us off by putting these prices up in school holidays in the first place.. My sons school allow you to take your child out of school up to 21 days a year in term time. and aslong as he is up to date with all his work/homework and not missing anything major then i dont see the problem! |
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Author : alan (---.range86-162.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 525
Date : 02-05-10 15:58
Peter
you assume that all familys are taking there kids out of school for financial purposes only.
How about people who work during school holidays!
Are they entitled to a holiday with there family?
If you work offshore and miss the holidays or cant get off at a certain time of year due to nature of the business you are involved in!
Everybody has a reason they are taking there kids out of school and its not always regarding money ! |
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Author : wheres me skis (---.midd.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 02-05-10 17:02
I think we made a good all round case for taking our kids skiing even in term time. |
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Author : steve (---.as43234.net)
posts : 2552
Date : 02-05-10 17:04
why is it when we have snow most people try and most manage to get to work in some way or another . but the schools are almost certain to be closed are all the teachers off skiing ?  |
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Author : Kirri (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 40
Date : 02-05-10 17:28
I take the pain and take my children at school holiday times but what people do is up to them, but Sparky no school encourages you to take children out!! And travel is great for children but it is equally good during school holidays! |
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Author : Pimpaclause (---.as43234.net)
posts : 302
Date : 02-05-10 17:45
Attention seeker springs to mind, with do- gooder straight after - then a song....
"i'd like too see things from your point of view but i couldn't fit my head up your as5ehole too...!"
GLC incase you want to know... 
There is always 1
Bi-lingual, articulate and academically advanced at 11yrs, well read and not a geek... all from an excellent local high school... you need to be astounded at your sheltered veiw into the real world.!
but perhaps your kids may not be so fortunate and need all the time in school they can get however, they are indeed lucky that you can take them skiing.
University of life and enjoying it. Health and happiness is what counts for everyone especially the children. If cost is a factor then so be it, i'm just glad your not in local government (or maybe you are) but you do have your right to your opionion it but hey thats up to you. You got your attention and like it or not the above was mine.
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Author : fraser (---.forallhlchlc.org)
posts : 527
Date : 02-05-10 17:51
well im taking 9 kids out of school, but then thats dictated by the race dates  |
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Author : ian (---.static.enta.net)
posts : 493
Date : 02-05-10 17:57
hey peter what happens when we have 2cm of snow in the uk when they shut the schools we have to take time off work to look after them should we start asking schools for compensation ?? what happens when schools do skiing trips in term time ?? i shall be taking my kids to boro on 20th fine or no fine |
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Author : Peter (62.25.109.---)
posts : 332
Date : 02-05-10 18:12
I never said it would be a popular view and once again kudos to all of you who have benefited from being taken out of school so your parents can have an extra few quid – I acknowledge that it is extortionate to travel during school holiday time but you got the children so you bought the ticket I am afraid. I do take the moral high ground and all of your comments about university of life are well and good but the evidence is there It doesn’t help your children to take then out of school during term time sorry – You can say what you like but it is detrimental to your children’s upbringing just so you can save a buck or two – I am afraid to say - you simply need to work harder and pay for holidays at appropriate times.
Ian 2 cm of snow - I agree that h&s has gone mad but taking a further week off doesn’t help. I urge you to all look at the evidence that is on the web not the anecdotal musings of a few parents or people who purport to be teachers on this board. Finally if you are going to take them out at least give them the opportunity to take their exams without the disruption of a holiday.
Warm wishes to you all
P
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Author : jocrad (217.154.66.---)
posts : 343
Date : 02-05-10 18:25
So - 10 GCSE's, 4 A-levels, studied for a nursing diploma, then a career change and became a qualified Financial Adviser.
All this and my parents did, on an odd occasion, take me out of school as I went to a grammar school that had different holidays to my brother at the local state school. or vice versa.
Oh, and by the way, my brother also did well at school and went to university, also has qualifications in health & safety.
My mum and dad worked all the hours possible to provide for their family, in industries that relied on their business coming from such things as factory maintenance on shut down periods. As these tended to be during school holidays, my dad couldn't always get time off when we were off school.
So before you spout off about "work harder", just consider that not everybody is in the same position as yourself and for a family to simply spend some time together, the only option may on an odd occasion be to take a few days out of school.
I know neither I nor my brother suffered any ill effects on our education. |
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Author : stephen (---.zone9.bethere.co.uk)
posts : 178
Date : 02-05-10 18:43
Peter, I am a teacher and I take our school ski trip. I would be happy to take it at half term but it is only two days!!! Out of the forty children we took last year, 37 improved their class placing. It is a motivating influence for the six months before the trip and the improved staff/pupil relationships last for much longer. We have one pupil whp has cut his "demerits" from 112 to 15( for the same time period) since he knew he was allowed to go on the ski trip)
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Author : stephen (---.zone9.bethere.co.uk)
posts : 178
Date : 02-05-10 18:43
Peter, I am a teacher and I take our school ski trip. I would be happy to take it at half term but it is only two days!!! Out of the forty children we took last year, 37 improved their class placing. It is a motivating influence for the six months before the trip and the improved staff/pupil relationships last for much longer. We have one pupil whp has cut his "demerits" from 112 to 15( for the same time period) since he knew he was allowed to go on the ski trip)
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Author : rich (212.140.250.---)
posts : 550
Date : 02-05-10 18:45
Peter,
let me join in with this discussion. I agree that we should do all we can to ensure the kids stay in school. education very important etc etc. schools starting to fine parents for taking them out of school, dont agree with that as it is the parents responsibility to ensure their child is in school. I do always ensure our ski trip is during the school break knowing that i have to endure the early mornings to get to the gondola before the queue starts building, knowing the slopes are busy and the flights overpriced. what really gets me cross is the school arranging school ski trips to europe the week after half term holiday, taking the kids out of school. when asking the teacher why, his response to me was it was for safety reasons as the slopes will not be as busy. agree completely, and something I may have to adopt next year and beyond. rant over...... |
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Author : Charlie Croker (213.120.90.---)
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Date : 02-05-10 19:24
Kids going skiing in or out half term... they don't know they're born, we never went on holiday because we were so poor. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
....Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
.....Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
....Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 02-05-10 19:28
Charlie, Whats your point? |
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Author : Another Mark (212.140.250.---)
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Date : 02-05-10 19:32
Clearly not a Monty Python fan  |
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Author : Charlie Croker (213.120.90.---)
posts : 29
Date : 02-05-10 19:35
Being ironic in a pythonesque style..
Seriously, it does kids more good than harm to do things like skiing when their Mum and Dad can afford to take them rather than not at all. Our two are coming with us tomorrow to Bansko a week before the end of term. |
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Author : hannah (193.35.158.---)
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Date : 02-05-10 19:36
As for working harder well i work full time and for the Government but common sense tells me if i can get a holiday £800 cheaper for going one week later then thats when im going.. Also why is it they close the school for 5/6 days a year for teacher training days i dont see the problem with my son not going to school for 5/6 days a year for skiing training.. |
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Author : Another Mark (62.189.169.---)
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Date : 02-05-10 19:39
And good to get off topic, because I am coming to the conclusion that original post has been put onto a forum where the vast majority of readers like their holidays, just to wind up the audience.
Mission accomplished. |
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Author : sandra (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 79
Date : 02-05-10 20:07
I thought this was a forum for help and advise on skiing - not parenting?!?!
Flying out with 2 children tomorrow and will have a lovely time.
Cheers
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Author : Kirri (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 40
Date : 02-05-10 20:17
Although I do somewhat agree with the post - I think you are right Another Mark
On a football site I go on to people like Pete are called WUM's
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Author : julie (---.range86-151.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 711
Date : 02-06-10 02:34
Hi, I'm a teacher and I believe that a bulgarian holiday in term time can be at times a rich and rewarding experience for a child. That is - as long as the parent makes an effort to make it a cultural experience as well as a PE holiday. Eating in local restaurants, visiting Monasteries,churches, Shroka Laka, Smoylan, Plovdiv etc. Bulgaria has much to offer!!!!! |
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Author : philipf (---.zone5.bethere.co.uk)
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Date : 02-06-10 10:26
take the children out of school for them. it is a great experience.
what is the difference in kids going 4 a ski holiday with parents than going on a ski holiday with school,many schools offer a ski trip.
we only live once a week off school wont harm any1 |
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Author : KAREN (---.zone13.bethere.co.uk)
posts : 785
Date : 02-06-10 12:10
Dont you just hate these people on the "moral high ground" - he must work for the travel industry and has been offered a bonus if he can increase half terms sales!
And no I dont take my kids out of school to go on holiday.
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Author : nicco (195.152.234.---)
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Date : 02-06-10 13:25
Just love the schools ,
My son is off to the czech republic slopes next feb at a cost of £750 and thats having to travel by coach ...... Bargain !!!! Not
Anyway what make's me laugh the trip has be organised during the school term .
Sorry but these people have double standards or the teachers must love a freebie ski trip |
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Author : jacksprat (---.pool1.Greenwich-GLN5000-BAS0001.orang)
posts : 28
Date : 02-06-10 15:23
Peter you're obviously a very articulate member of society and your view and presentation well thought through. The amount of response in itself, proves this is a great subject for intellectual debate....However I'm not going to be drawn in by that and would like to end now by saying I think your a dick!!!!!! |
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Author : KAREN (---.zone13.bethere.co.uk)
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Date : 02-06-10 16:40
couldn't agree more jacksprat!! |
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Author : Marie Claude (---.range86-160.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 02-06-10 20:58
I work in education and my partner is a senior manager at a secondary school. If we had the opportunity to take our kids out of school for a week of skiing then we would definitely do so. At my partner's school, which is in a deprived area they believe that it is important for a childs education/interest to go on holiday and won't deny parents the opportunity to go on holiday in term time if they can't afford it during the school holidays.
I've been ripped off for years having to go on holiday during school holidays and the amount of money I could have saved is enormous.
People who believe you should not take your children out of school for a holiday earn obviously more money then me and lots of other people. |
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Author : jo (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 02-06-10 21:22
When ever possible I never take my children out of school, however do have to compromise on location, due to the cost ! Life with children is about compromise, and if families choose to take their children out of school, then its their choice and nobody else’s business. A child’s life is an education in its self, and if they never leave the UK , then that in itself limits their aspirations ! If you have to take your children out of term time because otherwise you just could not afford then do it, but be honest with yourself can you really not afford or do you just not want to pay the higher prices ? Because I know in the past it was because I didn’t want to pay the inflated prices, I now dig a little deeper, and compromise. |
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Author : Jayne (---.range86-143.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 02-06-10 21:42
Coming to Borovets 3 days before half term with 2 children. Why because we can, sorry Peter if you think that harms my children. Always taken children out of school and always will daughter in year 11 A* pupil.I guess now she will fail all her GCSE because of her stupid,money saving parents
January school closed for 3 days because of snow. 4 days for teacher training and closed one lunch time to get ready for parents evening!!!
My husband and I work hard and no one will tell us when we can have a holiday.
Should all us bad parents meet for drinks so that our children can talk about how they have been harmed by their ski trip in school time. Arrive on the 10th Feb.
Rant over.
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Author : anne (---.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 02-06-10 22:33
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Author : Peter (62.25.109.---)
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Date : 02-07-10 16:04
Well – I am still not convinced by your arguments.
It’s still money money money – with a good smattering of people who have Cambridge firsts even though they were taken out of school during term time. Not one person has come up with any defence apart from “Well the schools do it”.
Take a look at yourself, take a look at the evidence – it simply isn’t good for your children.
As a final word on this I must confess that I am in the fortunate position that my children attend a non state funded school and our summer holidays are taken in the first week (which is usually a week before state school break up) (half terms match state schools) Even this week is more expensive than going a few weeks earlier so it’s not just state school children who suffer from high holiday prices.
I could easily get a lower paid job and slob about during the week, but bringing my children up with confidence and a good education is my priority and should be yours – I am very disappointed with the comments on here and I suggest you should do the following:
Take your children on skiing holidays and experience new cultures – but only during school holidays as it is detrimental to their education.
I am sorry to have been so thought provoking to you:
Have a great holiday in Bulgaria whenever you go!! I love Bulgaria and one day will retire there to my wife’s homeland.
Best thoughts
Peter
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Author : jacksprat (---.pool1.Greenwich-GLN5000-BAS0001.orang)
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Date : 02-07-10 16:58
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Author : IAN (---.pool1.unallocated-110-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 493
Date : 02-07-10 18:46
why if you got a lower paid job would you slob about in the week and why by paying for your kids to go to school do you think they will have a better education one word comes to mind ...snob |
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Author : LizziSnow (---.bb.sky.com)
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Date : 02-07-10 20:22
When my children were young, I gave up work and stayed at home to take care of them and, yes, there were occasions when we did take them out of school for a family holiday. We couldn't have afforded to go otherwise and, believe me, my hubby couldn't have worked any harder than he did to support us all. We did try to make sure it was towards the end of the school year and I never recall them falling behind their peers.
They're all adults now - well educated and happy in their chosen careers. They all have very happy memories of our lovely family holidays and I don't think it did them any harm to miss a little of their education.
Ironically, I now work as a teacher, so we have no choice but to holiday during the most expensive times of the year. And, by the way, even when I was at home, I don't remember ever having the time to 'slob about'! |
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Author : Jim (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 02-07-10 20:51
Slob about, you fool my bad back and sore hands from hard work, come see me and call me a slob  |
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Author : rich (---.btremoteinternet-dsl.bt.net)
posts : 550
Date : 02-07-10 21:19
peter, peter peter. great post to get everyones back up. anyway, get to bed now. you need to be up early for your white collar, red braces job in the city tomorrow. |
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Author : Kirri (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 40
Date : 02-07-10 21:42
Now for sure I know you are a WUM!! I agree with you over school holidays but I think your real intention was to get a thread with over 50 hits well congratulations.
It’s probably “swing and a miss” from all us who fell for your ardour of the wind up.
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Author : Jayne (---.range86-153.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 507
Date : 02-07-10 22:39
Agree with Stacey
Was going to have a rant but you really are not worth it, as long as my children are loved and know right from wrong and are happy in whatever they do in life, I could not give a s**t about them missing 3 days of school.
Get a life
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Author : Ricicles (---.range86-164.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 8
Date : 02-07-10 23:14
I agree with Jayne and Stacey , we will always take our kids out of school , we cannot afford school holidays nor do we want to go then as it would be so busy . We have done this for a number of years and will carry on doing this and have never been charged.
So people should just mind their own business and get on with life and stop worry what others are doing, Im not interested when everyone takes their holidays as Im not that sad.
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Author : KAREN (---.zone13.bethere.co.uk)
posts : 785
Date : 02-08-10 20:12
Ian - I can think of a better word for Peter, it begins with a W but probably not suitable to publish on this site!!!!!!
Mind your own business Peter and get on with your perfect life.
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Author : don (212.183.140.---)
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Date : 02-08-10 22:12
Peter,
Hope you are wearing a helmet, coz sooner or later youll fall of your high horse!!
Self richeous, springs to mind.
Sorry about the spelling, my parents used to take me out of skool to go on oliday!!!
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Author : Mat (89.253.183.---)
posts : 1184
Date : 02-08-10 22:47
I can't see what the fuss is about - we'll always need an underclass of poorly educated people to do the more menial tasks in society and with the way the UK is going the Poles aren't going to be interested in doing it for much longer.
Of course we could do what the Austrians and the French do and stagger half term holidays by region to reduce the intensiveness of the holiday period. |
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Author : Jason (---.demon.co.uk)
posts : 138
Date : 02-09-10 01:08
maybe if his children are so well educated they could teach him to shut up and get a life...
i find the bit about him getting a lower paid job and slobbing about ridiculous...
He must be one of the London Bankers who are not getting there 6 figure bonus's this year.. |
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Author : Mikey (---.pool1.unallocated-107-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1
Date : 02-09-10 01:22
Mat that idea is not going to be in favour with the travel companies UK schools etc.
Why not just pay the going price have a pukka ski holiday and stop complaining it is expensive etc.
Do you want to die together with good few suitcases full of dosh .
spend it wisely and start right now. |
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Author : Natasha (87.102.110.---)
posts : 33
Date : 02-09-10 17:06
What does it matter to him, I have always taken my children out of school for holidays, has done them no harm what so ever, my eldest has gone on to Uni and the youngest is studying for GCSE's and she is coming to Bansko with us on the 27th Feb, To be honest the break from studying will do her good and she can perfect her snowboarding at the same time! |
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Author : mcmoodle (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 34
Date : 02-09-10 17:22
Learning to Ski and visiting different countries with their own cultures gives kids life skills. Fact. We already over test our kids here in the UK - if they are to grow up and be rounded individuals, they needs more than books and exams. A lot of families if limited to half terms could not do this kind of thing. Fact.
With my kids (just returned from Bansko) - they are only in reception / year 1 - I tried to make it a learning experience for them - showing them how the money is different - that they use differnet letters - now they understand a little about the cyrillic alphabet!
Self righteous doesn't even begin to cover it.... BAH!!  |
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Author : Mat (89.253.183.---)
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Date : 02-09-10 17:30
So a week out of school is compensated by the new knowledge that the Bulgarians have a different alphabet? Is skiing a life skill? What is a life skill? |
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Author : mcmoodle (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 34
Date : 02-09-10 17:40
Mat - it's just one of many examples of how you can make it a learning experience for them and widen their view of life. I didn't expect to need to spell that point out and If you need someone to explain to you what a life skill is, I'm not going to do that for you. |
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Author : stev Chardwell (---.energis.gsi.gov.uk)
posts : 1
Date : 02-10-10 10:03
I don’t want to prolong this thread but Jeeeezzzus –Please get the point: Peter didn’t say that taking children skiing was a bad thing just not at school times!!
Mcmoodle you may be right about him being self righteous (oand he is obviously winding you all up) but his point is not in school time!!! You simply prove his point for him
Natasha – I am gob smacked
“The youngest is studying for GCSE's and she is coming to Bansko with us on the 27th Feb, To be honest the break from studying will do her good and she can perfect her snowboarding at the same time!”
As Kirri said Swing and a miss Natasha - Have a great time Natasha!!!!!!!!!!
Disappointed (Steve) in London
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Author : Kirri (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 40
Date : 02-10-10 20:57
Natasha
I think you must be a WUM!!
lTo be honest the break from studying will do her good and she can perfect her snowboarding at the same time!
Are you serious during exams!!! please be a WUM
If not it is simply grist to his mill
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Author : tateyheed (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 10
Date : 02-10-10 21:19
my pennys worth,
We have took our kids out of school since they were very young. My kids are now 9 and 13. I realise next year we probably should not for the eldest sake, i personally think that there is no harm up to the age 13- 14 yrs old or year 10 at school. My kids have visited Bulgaria on the coast and Borovets for a number of years and now have learned a lot about traditions / the alphabet / language / and yes life skills/social skills with Bulgarian people as they now have friends there. This has created a healthy outlook on different ideas and cultures.
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Author : Ian w (---.bb.sky.com)
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Date : 02-10-10 22:15
My kids have skied since age 4, usually the first couple of weeks in january because of the cost, simply could not afford school holliday time. (they are now age 11 and 13)- they have visited Bulgaria many times and really look forward to returning having made friends there and got to know the customs and the area very well.
My daughter went with the school to France last year and i paid over £600 for her to be told she would ski in a group to her ability (she skis Blacks comfortably), and she was put in a group of total begginers and wa used as an extra pair of hands picking the fallers up all week- had a good time but a total waste of money, had fun but learnt nothing!
we have skied other European resorts too but keep returning to Bulgaria. We have had special permission from the school to go over to Canada for skiing this year during term time because of family circumstances(and enjoyed and kids learnt good off piste ), and they have said it is ok to book bulgaria again next year (looking at late January), again because of personal circumstances- but they have good attendance records and achievements are good, and the school recognises a weeks skiing is actually good for them (all beit after a bit of persuation!)- just because we aint got loads of dosh should not prevent lasting memories being made that can not be replicated as they get older- keep the faith and fight for your cause! |
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Author : tateyheed (---.bb.sky.com)
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Date : 02-10-10 22:34
Well said. No one can argue with that
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Author : Peter (62.25.109.---)
posts : 332
Date : 02-11-10 15:06
Well after all said and done
I will be flying out on Saturday with my family for a week in Borovets, and really looking forward to it. Plenty of opportunity for my children’s development: as tattyheed says “My kids children have visited Bulgaria on the coast and Borovets for a number of years and now have learned a lot about traditions / the alphabet / language / and yes life skills/social skills with Bulgarian people as they now have friends there. This has created a healthy outlook on different ideas and cultures.” Except my children do it during school holidays - only one difference. See you all on the slopes.
Natasha I am not even going to comment.
Have a great holiday
Peter
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Author : Another Mark (62.189.169.---)
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Date : 02-11-10 16:45
Mind yer halo |
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Author : Enthusiastic but rubbish skier!!! (---.as43234.net)
posts : 10
Date : 02-11-10 18:09
We are having the best of both worlds, we fly out on Tuesday next very early, and our school decided to tag a teacher training day on the following monday(we'd decided to take a day off anyway shock horror, bad parents!!! ) but don't need to cos school has given us a days grace teacher training day!! At the end of the day, we all have our opinions, ideas, values, some people are able to spend the extra money if they are in well paid employment, but others have less to spend !! they shouldn't be criticised for that! We all do what is best for ourselves and our kids, so after all said and done, lets all have a fab week skiing. Our lives, our families, our opinions, and at the end of the day no one elses business really!!! |
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Author : Enthusiastic but rubbish skier!!! (---.as43234.net)
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Date : 02-11-10 18:09
We are having the best of both worlds, we fly out on Tuesday next very early, and our school decided to tag a teacher training day on the following monday(we'd decided to take a day off anyway shock horror, bad parents!!! ) but don't need to cos school has given us a days grace teacher training day!! At the end of the day, we all have our opinions, ideas, values, some people are able to spend the extra money if they are in well paid employment, but others have less to spend !! they shouldn't be criticised for that! We all do what is best for ourselves and our kids, so after all said and done, lets all have a fab week skiing. Our lives, our families, our opinions, and at the end of the day no one elses business really!!! |
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Author : Mat (89.253.183.---)
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Date : 02-11-10 18:53
'Our lives, our families, our opinions, and at the end of the day no one elses business really!!!'
Well, apart from the school and social services |
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Author : don (212.183.140.---)
posts : 298
Date : 02-11-10 19:17
Ebrs,
Guess its anyones business now youve posted it on an open forum!! lol
As it happens, today they have again closed hundreds of schools in Kent due to snow, you could tell the authorities you took the kids out of school due to snow!!
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Author : biffyn (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 02-11-10 19:19
who are you to tell me what is best for my lil girl  you look after your own and we will do the same |
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Author : BFT (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 24
Date : 02-11-10 20:05
I waz tacken out off skool all the time for holidays. az you kan cee it nevver affected my edukashun.
No really, like someone said earlier, school skiing trips are often taken during term time. If the holiday is in their exam year they probably know most of what they need anyway, plus the break might do them the world of good and clear the mind so to speak. |
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