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Author : Lindate (212.219.158.---)
posts : 11
Date : 07-30-08 13:24
Anyone bought on Woodlands Spring, with Britannia? |
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Author : pedro (---.popl.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 22
Date : 08-14-08 01:53
no but be care full and read your contract or get a solicitor, please you will thank me, I have a Bulgarian Solicitor if you need one... Good luck
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Author : Lindate (212.219.158.---)
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Date : 08-14-08 10:07
Thanks for your concern, we already have a Bulgarian Solicoitor who is keeping an eye on this for us.
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Linda |
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-16-08 17:36
HI LINDATE, I HAVE BOUGHT IN BLOCK 1 ,OCT 2006,VISITED THE SITE SEPT 07 ,WHILE SIGNING TITLE DEED. NO PROGRESS EITHER DURING FURTHER VISIT IN FEB 08 WHILE SKING. HAVE YOU BOUGHT. |
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Author : John Davies (---.range86-162.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 31
Date : 10-16-08 22:11
Hi Pedro.
What do you know about Britannia ? |
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-19-08 13:40
WEB SITE www.egioverseas.tv to view drive by video of woodlands and golf course area. |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-22-08 12:24
Hi
Yes we did buy in Woodland Spring in block two which was supposed to be completed in October this year and they are now quoting Autumn next year. I had an email from the company on 9th October to say that the two directors of the company were going out to Bulgaria last week and they were then going to send report out. Will contact them again this week if I have not received anything. I have to say that when I email them I do get a reply everytime. I think, reading between the lines that there has been a few problems with the contractors and they have pulled everyont off Woodland Spring to complete Boudicea Heights. Email the company to see if you can get a reply. Will report back here once I receive something. Firefighter keep in touch.
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Author : John Davies (---.range86-143.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 31
Date : 10-22-08 16:21
Hi Linda
Have you seen the build pictures of Boadicea Heights,
they built up to finished roof level and then stopped, that was in July and they haven't been back, we have sent various emails and rung on numerous occasions but nothing, unlike you, we haven't even got lines to read between, what I am saying is don't blame Boadicea Heights for the lack of labour, they're not there either, look to other reasons for the delays. |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
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Date : 10-22-08 16:30
Oops does not sound good. Have emailed the company today, will let you know what happens. I had assumed that Boadicea Heights was progressing. What percentage have you paid if you dont mind me asking, we have put down 30%.
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Author : John Davies (---.range86-143.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 31
Date : 10-22-08 16:45
Hi Linda.
We'Ve put down 30% also, we've been trying to get updated build photos since July, then last week we were sent photographs taken of Boadicea Heights 2 weeks ago by people staying @ B.R.T. we were gutted.
In February, on the strength of completion dates, we have booked 3 flights, to go skiing. |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-22-08 17:43
Do you know if there was anyone on the site at all? They sometimes stop building externally to work on the internal stuff for a while. We were out in Bansko at the end of March/Beginning of April this year and there were builders on the site at Woodland Spring then and at B H then too. Wonder if they are putting the final touches to St Davids instead. The company has quite a few building projects on the go and with the amount of building work going on in Bansko would imagine they would need to jiggle the workoad a bit. I know that they had a few problems with the furniture providers and were changing to a different one, which may have delayed St Davids final fit out so the workforce could have been utilised there. Would not get too worried about it at the moment, its amazing how quickly they can complete things. Will keep my fingers crossed for February. Would you be able to send the photos to me? How do I give you my email address?
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-22-08 18:09
Hi
The most recent news that we had re the golf developments were that it was only for those that had purchased on the golf development and would not be available initially for anyone else. Have copied a note from the company that I received on 1st August below. Please see below.
Regards
Linda
Hello Linda,
In reply to your email of 30th July I hope to answer your concerns.
The reasons for the delay in the development of Woodlands spring is that we have had several issues with the construction company that we could not resolve between us.
Therefore we felt it necessary to change construction contractors and have had to renegotiate a new schedule of works for completion which has resulted in their being this delay.
In the course of time you will be receiving the information on the revised payment terms and the dates for payment.
The building work has progressed slowly but we are at the roof level currently.
I hope this clears your concerns and we will update you on progress and procedures as we continue.
We always aim to get our projects finished on time and to budget and we will get a more accurate timescale that you require as we progress.
In regard to the golf course and use it was at first common knowledge between developers that the golf course was to be available for the public to be able to play. Since this time Pirin developments have released a statement saying that the course will become exclusive for property owners within the development only. Nevertheless since this statement some hotels are allowing overnight guests the availability to play here. It is our view that this will eventually extend to the public being allowed access to enable the company to pay and service this investment.
We appreciate the importance of clients communication and I will be only to glad to answer any of your future requirements and you can email me at any time.
Yours sincerely,
Greg Hole
Operations Manager
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-22-08 18:19
THANKS LINDA,I HAD A SIMALAR RESPONSE ,I HAVE A BRITANNIA BROCHURE FROM OCT 2006 ,STATING REDUCED GREEN FEES FOR WOODLANDS RESIDENTS,ALL VERY ANOYING ,I ALSO HEARD THE SKI/ GOLF DEVELOPMENT AT NEARBY KULINOTO HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD,AND 4 MORE GOLF COURSES WERE BEING BUILT IN THE AREA, WITH A 5 YEAR COMPLETION TIME, REGARDS PAUL |
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Author : Daniel Snell (---.93.125.91.rb4.adsl.brightview.com)
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Date : 10-22-08 19:15
Paul turn your caps lock off when you post mate it is considerd shouting on a forum to post in capitals!!  |
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Author : Mat (---.sofia.cabletel.bg)
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Date : 10-23-08 16:58
By the sounds of it, he's entitled to be shouting.... heh heh. |
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-23-08 22:37
LINDA,no doubt you have received a letter from Britannia,i always thought it was a finance problem due to lack of sales,we are now in the land of hope,i cant see anyone financing this project until credit problems are resolved in the uk.what are your thoughts. regards,PAUL |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-24-08 11:14
Hi Paul
The letter was waiting on my doormat when I got in last night. More or less what I expected, the letter indicated that they may have a financier but I'm not convinced anything will come of this in this instance. Still, as ever, eternally optimistic, we are prepared to sit tight (not sure if we have an alternative at the moment as not sure if they would have any monies to pay our money back).
I think there is a good chance it will get completed eventually but may take a year or so, think we are in this for the long haul.
Are you planning on going out to Bulgaria any time soon, we may possibly go sometime next year.
John, have you heard anything about Boudicea Heights, is it in the same situation. Would look for alternative accommodation if I was you for February.
Keep in touch guys.
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-24-08 11:47
HI LINDA.we were going for a second ski holiday in feb/ mar 09 and take the oportunity to view woodlands,the way i feel at the minute we will probably forget it,we are sking in FRANCE (courcheval) in Jan,if BEV and I decide to go out to BANSKO i will contact you and perhaps we could meet ,that f you dont mind socialising with a young at heart middle aged couple,lets hope building restarts soon and i will be there, best wishes ,PAUL. |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-24-08 12:02
Thanks Paul
Somehow get the feeling that we are probably the same age so dont really think that will be a problem. Let me know if you intend to go to Bansko and Tom and I might get a chance to meet you. Think we need to stick together on this one.
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Author : Bob (---.range86-134.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 445
Date : 10-25-08 01:46
I hear that no more construction is taking place at Bansko anymore due to the developers having run out of cash... |
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Author : John Davies (---.range86-150.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 31
Date : 10-26-08 11:26
Hi Linda.
I think that we have had the same letter but regarding Boadicea Heights, they've built up to roof level, stopped, and cant finance the second fix.
Were still going out in February, cant miss the skiing. |
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-27-08 10:42
Hi Gaynor ,I am also a purchaser in block 1,with all the same concerns as the other buyers,from your message are you saying your solicitor has stated BRITANNIA are going bankrupt, or is this just her opinion they may take this option,obviously worrying times for us all,I am waiting for a repley from my solicitor in Bulgaria,I will post any info to his response.regards PAUL. |
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Author : Mat (---.sofia.cabletel.bg)
posts : 1184
Date : 10-27-08 10:48
This is the risk of buying a cheap off plan property. The developers use your money to build the next place, which is fine unless you are in the last place, which you are. If you pull out the company will have no money and if you try and sue they will simply declare bankruptcy and you will get nothing. You might however have a better chance of seizing their assets if they (or their directors) have some sort of UK presence - have a look at Companies House. Your other chance is to sit and wait and hope they get more cash in 2-3 years to finish the place. |
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-27-08 11:24
Dear Everyone
Tom (my partner) and I have discussed this at great length and have run through all of the scenarios that you have. Like Gaynor we briefly thought we could 'cut and run', but there is no money to refund to us. We are prepared to sit and wait it out, I do think that it will be a couple of years before we see any sign of a finished property but we went into this for the long run and not short term financial gain. I can't see any point in pushing for bankruptcy as we will all loose out. I apppreciate that not everyone may be in a position to sit and wait.
Let me know what you think.
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-27-08 11:46
Linda, our thoughts are the same as yours and Toms,i have friends and family who have bought in Bulgaria,and their developments have gone 1 to 2 years over finish time,we would rather see a return in the future, Bansko was never going to be a short term investment, the amount of developments out there makes this self evident.If we ask for refunds we will all lose out.Regards
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Author : Gaynor Cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 12
Date : 10-27-08 22:12
Hello Paul
Sorry if I did not explain myself but Woodland Springs has only sold just under half of the properties, therefore there is no money in the pot to continue with the project, I have been in touch with Mariya in Sofia Bulgaria who is dealing with this matter, I have paid three quarters of the property and according to the contract you are eligible to pull out at this stage because of delay, (but Mariya has said that they have no monies to refund. So I can pull out with no monies refunded to ourselves, and then fight it in the courts, for trying to claim the money back, which could take a couple of years. Eventually I will still be at a loss as Britannia Overseas Properties will claim bankruptcy on the site and also say it is to do with the Credit Crunch so Mariya says.
They are still running a business in Swansea, Mumbles and now have new projects in Bulgaria on the go, I just cant understand it.
P.S. That was quite interesting from Mat to find out their creditability from Companies House, to see if they have assets in this country.
Anyway its nice to share my discussion with you, and if anybody has any update or information please get touch.
Night for now.
Gaynor and Christian Cooper
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-27-08 22:53
Gatnor.Thanks for your response,it seems we must wait and hope.ref checking BRITANNIAS creditability with company house,I believe they are not a limited company so they would not be registered ,just a company formed between a group of people.I know the director NIGEL HOLE bought land in several parts of bulgaria many years ago.I spoke to his rep on a visit to varna in may while looking at property in BALCHICK AND SOZOPOL.I still think they are a genuine company and will progress given finance and sales,cheers PAUL.
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Author : camper (---.range86-162.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 10-29-08 21:11
Hi, have you noticed on the Britannia website that they are selling land in Varna! Let's hope this sells quickly so they can fund their unfinished developments, they maybe genuine but are doing themselves no favours by not replying to calls and emails. |
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Author : pedro (---.popl.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 22
Date : 10-30-08 02:43
Hi Linda,
Sorry to hear all the bad news that Britannia are in trouble but you cant say I did not worn you...
Please contact your solicitor to find out if their is a Mortgage on the land, if so you need to find out who owns the land.If for any reason the company you have paid funds to goes bankrupt then the bank owns the property if their is a mortgage on the land this means you have a very good chance that the project will be completed by the Bank.
Please also find out who the construction company is as normally they have part funds in the build.
since 2005 the mayor of Bansko put a hold on all construction in end of October to End of march due the the roads not being road worthy for Large lorry's this is still in force, this has been normal for many years but you will not be told this.They blame it on the open season in which you can understand as you wouldn't want lorry's driving up and down the streets when on holiday.I have to say Bansko is a wonderful place and in 10 years time all will be forgiven.
Studio in Bansko £30K
Studio flat in France £250K
If you need any more help let me know.
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Author : Linda Templeton-Elms (212.219.158.---)
posts : 9
Date : 10-30-08 16:35
Hi everyone
I too have contacted Mariya and whilst there are problems with funding there is no mention of Britannia going bankrupt at this stage and Britannia are not the only company in Bulgaria going through this crisis. It is a fact that Britannia have no money availalble to pay anyone who decides to cancel their contract, they can't pay out what they don't have. I do think it is a mistake to demand funds back at this stage as this will , potentially, push the company towards bankruptcy and then we will all loose out.
Britannia have stated that they will contact everyone within 60 days, (whilst they are trying to get additional funding). I think the only option is to wait and see what happens then.
Pedro, thank you for your concern but I am not unduly worried at this stage and I am aware of the Mayors hold on constuction during the winter months and I agree with you that Bansko is a wonderful place. Are you based in Bansko by any chance as I am wondering how the Mayors building is progressing, he has had his block built right next to Woodlands Spring Phase 1 for anyone who does not know this. Be interesing to see if his construction has been hit by the credit crunch. Any one know anything about this let me know.
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 10-31-08 10:37
Linda.From my observations on the drive by video on www.egioverseas.tv .The MAYORS development has not progressed since i was in BANSKO in FEBUARY,it was always in advance of WOODLANDS due to most of the windows being fitted.its difficult to say if any internal work is being done from the video,although i dont think so.any idea what his development is i.e private hotel,or appartments , has i have not seen any for sale advertisments .One sure thing if and when WOODLANDS is finished ,(and i believe it will).all the mains services and road will be completed with the MAYOR involved take care and good luck. PAUL   |
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Author : Lucky 7 (---.dsl.zen.co.uk)
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Date : 11-24-08 16:17
We are in the same situation as you guys with Woodlands :-( and are of the same opinion that demanding our money back will only lead to bankruptcy where we will lose everything, so it is a case of sitting tight and seeing what happens.
If anyone gets any news regarding Britannia please post!!
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Author : freddie ward (---.proxy.aol.com)
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Date : 11-26-08 22:59
Hi,
I wish I stumbled upon this forum earlier,Ive bought 2 apartments in st Davids,went out 12 months ago,been keeping an eye on their wbsite and all seems well.
Britannia aren`t very good at replying to phone calls and getting back to you,which I`m sure we all find very frustrating.
I feel for all going through this time of "Unknown",
If I hear anything about Britannia as a whole I`ll keep you posted
Neil
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Author : Lucky7 (---.pool1.Cardiff-SGL5075-BAS0001.orange)
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Date : 02-13-09 17:18
Hi,
Has anyone had an update regarding the Woodlands Springs development?
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 02-13-09 17:57
Hi Lucky7
We have received a letter from Britannia last week advising that they are going through a Due Diligence Process, basically trying to source funds from elsewhere.
I have also spoken to them and they are putting together a business programme for the bank so all is not lost yet.
They have also taken on a number of Russian agents, obviously looking for funding from countries not so affected by the crisis. In addition to this they have shows in the near future in Moscow and are also looking towards getting some Greek agents. There is also the possibility tha they may be working with a Swiss Finance Company. So basically they are not just sitting around and doing nothing but actively trying to source other income.
Where this will leave us eventually, or how long it will take, I dont know but lets just keep our fingers crossed. Paul (Firefighter) have you heard anything?
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Author : PAUL TAYLOR (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 02-13-09 19:21
HI LINDA, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LAST WEEK STATING THEY WERE PREPARING FURTHER INFORMATION AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE REPORT,WHICH SHOULD BE DONE IN THREE WEEKS FOR THEIR NEXT MEETING,ITS JUST HOPE AND WAIT FOR ANY POSITIVE OUTCOME AT THIS STAGE.THANKS FOR YOUR INFO ,AS YOU SAID THEY ARE ACTIVE IN TRYING TO GAIN FINANCE IN VERY DIFFICULT TIMES,FEELING OPTIMISTIC,PAUL |
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Author : FIREFIGHTER (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 03-20-09 11:18
HI, LINDA,AND OTHER WOODLANDS BUYERS, HAVE YOU HEARD ANY UPDATES FROM BRITANNIA ,ALL SEEMS TO HAVE GONE QUIET, THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE HEARD SOMETHING BY NOW,REGARDS .PAUL. |
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Author : Jammy1959 (194.75.36.---)
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Date : 04-24-09 15:28
Glad I've just found this forum. My wife & I have bought at St Davids, but more worryingly our son has bought at Woodland Springs and is really worried about his investment as this is his first step onto the property ladder. |
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Author : sam (---.12-1.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 04-25-09 01:12
Don't know how things work in bulgaria, but when we bought in spain we were told to only buy from builders with a bank guarentee. Basically what this means is if the builder runs out of money the bank will finish the build and you then pay the bank rather thsn the builder the balance out standing and the property is transfered to you. If the builder dosnt have this and cant finish the build basically you loss everything. Might be worth trying to find out if such thing excists in bulgaria and if your builder is covered by it. |
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 06-08-09 00:21
Nice to hear that you have bought in Woodlands Springs
I am in the process of buying in Woodland Springs Phase 2, but at the moment they are on stop, due to euro and not selling any more apartments. Received another letter yet again from Britannia 08.06.09 only to say that no progress has been made, so they will update in a couple of weeks again.
Any update with yourself, "are you just hanging in there, like ourselves".
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 06-08-09 00:21
Nice to hear that you have bought in Woodlands Springs
I am in the process of buying in Woodland Springs Phase 2, but at the moment they are on stop, due to euro and not selling any more apartments. Received another letter yet again from Britannia 08.06.09 only to say that no progress has been made, so they will update in a couple of weeks again.
Any update with yourself, "are you just hanging in there, like ourselves".
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Author : Gareth (86.154.232.---)
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Date : 07-21-09 20:42
Hi there i have bought 3 aparts with 30% deposit any chance we could trade info or anyone out there garethlfctucker@yahoo.co.uk mob 07833 470 518 a pretty worried welsh boy!! |
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Author : Gareth (86.154.232.---)
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Date : 07-21-09 20:42
Hi there i have bought 3 aparts with 30% deposit any chance we could trade info or anyone out there garethlfctucker@yahoo.co.uk mob 07833 470 518 a pretty worried welsh boy!! |
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 07-23-09 11:23
Hi everyone
We are doing the same, just hanging in there and trying to be optimistic. No idea what is going to happen to Woodlands though.
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Author : Gareth (---.range86-154.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 08-01-09 11:46
Yes I have bought 3 aparts you can contact me email olr mob 07833 470 518 |
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Author : Crash7 (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 2
Date : 11-02-09 00:20
All,
Does anyone have any up to date information on Woodland Springs?
The last corrispondance I recieved stated that they would be closing the office in Swansea and moving it to Bulgaria.
The e-mail address given in Bulgaira ends with @noproblemsltd.com which suggests it has nothing to do with Britannia.
I feel that we have all been ripped off and taken for a ride by Nigel Hole and Andy Moore and I feel that we now need to club together and get as much out of this as we can, as realistically I do not think any of us will be getting a finished apartment.
Have any of you signed the deeds to your apartment? thus at least getting something for your money?
It may only be a room in a bare shell however if you have put in £K's you should get something!! And when Britannia go bankrupt, which they will, at least they will not be able to take your part of the bare shell away from you.
Andy Moore & Nigel Hole have also arranged the business in such a way that if they go bankrupt with the Woodlands Springs development the recievers will be unable to touch any of there personal assets or any of the other Britannia builds, the only ones that lose are us!!
Even thought lots of us have paid lots of money I feel that at present most of us probably have nothing and Nigel & Andy do!!
I am currently in the middle of trying to take legal action against them, but as with requests for information on the build they will not answer letters and are difficult to track down!!
Does anyone know where Andy Moore or Nigel Hole live?
All replies and info welcome - Lets work together and hopefully some of us may get something!!
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Author : pedro (---.popl.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 11-02-09 02:29
If you decide to take court action BEWARE you will need receipts from the builders not the agency...why you ask because i know of people who have lost thier cases in bulgarian courts due to no proof of payments. all payments should be payed to contractors this is bulgarian law.
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Author : Crash7 (81.144.225.---)
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Date : 11-02-09 12:07
Pedro,
Thanks for the info.
I have been in contact with the e-mail we were given as our point of contact in Bulgaria.
In a nutshell it is a virtual office, all they are able to do is forward you the last piece of corrispondance that Britannia have issued them and nothing else.
The most up to date information they currently have is dated August,09.
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Author : Gareth (---.range86-152.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 52
Date : 11-05-09 11:58
I agree lets see if all us clients at woodland springs get together and see what we can do contact me on my email or mobile lets all club together and meet up we really need to do something!
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Author : Lindate (212.219.158.---)
posts : 11
Date : 11-05-09 12:03
Hi Gareth
Interested in meeting but it depends where you are based, we are in Newcastle.
Regards
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Author : LMR (---.proxy.aol.com)
posts : 1
Date : 01-30-10 00:01
Hi
Just been catching up on all the chat re Britannia and Woodlands Spring. We have bought two appartments in Block 2 and after meeting Nigel in the summer 09 he talked us through moving to Block A. Since then heard nothing although have been in constant contact with Zarka who never seems to be able to give us an update.
Have you been able to get anywhere with legal action ?
Lee
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 02-18-10 23:39
Hi,
We to have bought two apartments in Block 2 but unlike you have never been lucky enough to communicate with Nigel, let alone meet him to discuss the problems! We have had a number of communications via Email but only at our instigation. Having been advised in summer 09 that we could arrange to discuss moving to Block 1, we came back from holiday in October to find a letter advising that the Swansea office was closed and that all communication was to be via Zarka. And nice as she seems to be, all she tells us is that Britannia are still working to get the necessary funding to complete and she will advise when there is something to tell. Having tried to go on the Britop website yesterday, we discovered that it no longer exists and so another Email to Zarka has gone off but as yet no reply. The worrying thing is that she is the only contact we have! Came across this website and found your message - good to communicate with someone else in the same boat. Legal action, that is the next step I fear....
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 02-19-10 00:14
The last letter stated Britannia was re designing their web site ,and a meeting was to be held between nigel and his clients in the near future ,also a new investor has been involved with the company,The banks are starting to release funds for projects as we climb out of these dificult times.hope this helps Block 1 investor. |
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 02-19-10 10:50
Hi Everyone
We have received the same information as firefighter. Like firefigher we remain optimisitc, we too have bought in Block 2.
Regards
Linda and Tom |
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 02-19-10 10:50
Hi Everyone
We have received the same information as firefighter. Like firefigher we remain optimisitc, we too have bought in Block 2.
Regards
Linda and Tom |
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 02-19-10 10:50
Hi Everyone
We have received the same information as firefighter. Like firefigher we remain optimisitc, we too have bought in Block 2.
Regards
Linda and Tom |
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Author : Linda (212.219.158.---)
posts : 78
Date : 02-19-10 10:56
Sorry for the multiple postings.
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 02-19-10 21:18
Hi Everyone,
Interesting, we haven't received any such communication about the website. Any chance of getting a copy of the letter advising this?
Thanks, Imi
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 02-19-10 21:20
Hi Everyone,
Interesting, we haven't received any such communication about the website. Any chance of getting a copy of the letter advising this?
Thanks, Imi
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 02-19-10 23:12
I have sent you an email, see botom of page ,regards,PAUL |
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Author : John (95.144.45.---)
posts : 827
Date : 02-20-10 05:36
Hi Ive been reading your post with Interest as I have been buying a apartment with Brittania in Sunny Beach and its exactly the same story,Has anybody heard anything recently about the company and whats been happening,the website has closed and Zarka never replies?
Id love to have any other contact info that people have...
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 02-20-10 11:19
Hi John,
I have found out that Zarka had our Email address incorrect on her system and so we weren't receiving any updates from her. These have now been sent to me and it seems that there have been problems with the website and it is being redesigned! Might be worth checking.Re contacting Zarka, she has replied to us before but we are awaiting a reply at the moment and like you, we have no other contact details for the company!
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 02-20-10 11:22
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the info, it has been a great help. Does anyone know how I get rid of my details off of the bottom of the forum page, or can't you all see it?!
Thanks, Imi |
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Author : Imi (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 6
Date : 03-04-10 17:07
Hi Everyone,
Just to let you know that I heard from Zarka today, saying that there is no news at the moment but not to worry as she will keep me informed! Let's hope to hear something sooner rather than later.
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Author : graham (---.adsl.newnet.co.uk)
posts : 660
Date : 03-08-10 16:53
Hello Everyone,
Just came across this site, I am trying to help my brother out who paid £25,000 to Britannia for a property at victoria Villa's! I have just spoken To Zarka who said she does not get updates from either Nigel Hole or Sebastian Kinsman... My brother is desperate he mortgaged the money to pay the deposit and feels he has been really let down by these guys, no information has be forthcoming he is completly in the dark and is so upset he has asked me to get involved.
If anyone can help, I would be appreciated..
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Author : Sally (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 109
Date : 04-10-10 21:29
Have heard a rumour Nigel Hole & Andy Moore are filing for bankruptcy. Can anyone confirm this? Not sure how this impacts on Britannia but does not bode well. Loaned money to my parents in this and not happy. Has anyone had any contact at all recently?
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Author : Steve C (85.118.193.---)
posts : 1641
Date : 04-11-10 08:32
Sad, sad, sad, sad......
The property investment consultant i visited Bansko with nearly eight years ago to advise on the skiing and the mountain infrastructure basically wrote off the potential, and did not advise their clients to invest. When she did some digging and discovered available permissions for 40,000 additional beds, on top of existing accomadation... my advice of approx 15,000 skiers max on the mountain tipped her over.... she described it as another Porto, a massive overbuild... and investment hell...
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Author : stef (89.240.135.---)
posts : 67
Date : 04-13-10 01:16
Seems as if my 'Friend' Andy moore who sold me an apartment in Woodland Springs yet today on national tv said 'he was not involved at all with the develpoment of woodland springs' is still doing okay with our money!
http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/news/Plans-163-1million-homes-land-near-Mumbles-common/article-1448500-detail/article.html |
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Author : welshlady (95.147.207.---)
posts : 54
Date : 04-13-10 16:34
There was a TV programme on Welsh S4C last night highlighting the problems at Woodlands Spring. Just viewed it online:
http://www.s4c.co.uk/clic/c_level2.shtml?series_id=364886469
The programme is in Welsh but I do believe it is possible to get the subtitles.
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Author : john fisher (95.144.48.---)
posts : 5
Date : 04-13-10 19:36
Dear Mr.Fisher,
RECEIVED THIS FROM ZARKA A FEW DAYS AGO.
I had a meeting with Mr.Nigel Hole in Bansko just before Easter. I can assure you that Britannia has not gone bankrupt. It is solvent and the team is trying to find the best solution for the future of the development. You will be given details about Victoria Villas shortly.
Kind regards,
Zarka
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Author : john fisher (95.144.48.---)
posts : 5
Date : 04-13-10 19:57
Intersting about him being in wales on TV maybe pop and see him soon if hes in this country. |
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Author : welshlady (95.147.207.---)
posts : 54
Date : 04-14-10 00:52
When the TV reporter called at Nigel Hole's home, he was not available. His partner, the ex rugby player would not be interviewed either. Their offices in Swansea are now empty.
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Author : Gail & Andy Battison (---.nhs.uk)
posts : 3
Date : 04-15-10 12:11
Hi all
Just found thid forum, thanks to welshlady.
We have bought an apartment in Block 2. We tried to pull out a while back as they changed the plans and removed the bridge joining the two blocks. Now I will be happy just to get an apartment, even if it is in the middle of a building site. We were told that they were going to attempt to complete block 1, and offered to move all from block 2 to block 1. But we have heard no more on this. Also, when we went out to Bansko Jan 08 to ski, I thought then that the present infrastructure and ski runs could not cope with all the new builds. We did go to the build in June 07, and all appeared to be going to plan then, but that was before the crash.
Mariya is also our solicitor, the last contact we had from her was to offer our money back from them, as she did not believe the build was going to complete anytime soon.
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Author : owain (---.btc-net.bg)
posts : 4
Date : 05-13-10 11:02
For anyone who has been ripped by Britannia, a website has been set up: http://www.britanniavictims.com/ |
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Author : Alun Gerard (---.as43234.net)
posts : 2
Date : 05-17-10 00:06
With regard to this:-
Date : 04-13-10 19:36
Dear Mr.Fisher,
RECEIVED THIS FROM ZARKA A FEW DAYS AGO.
I had a meeting with Mr.Nigel Hole in Bansko just before Easter. I can assure you that Britannia has not gone bankrupt. It is solvent and the team is trying to find the best solution for the future of the development. You will be given details about Victoria Villas shortly.
Kind regards,
Zarka
...... Britannia actually have a strike off action against their company for not filing their accounts with Companies House, so not as solvent as Mr Hole would like us to think. |
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Author : john fisher (95.144.48.---)
posts : 5
Date : 05-17-10 09:27
Stll havent heard anything although Zarka says I would of been contacted in a few weeks with updated information.
what does a "a strike off action" actually mean?
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Author : Alun Gerard (---.orctel.co.uk)
posts : 2
Date : 05-19-10 15:29
It means that Companies House will strike Britannia off the register for not conforming to producing their accounts. If they are struck off, Britannia will be 'disolved' and the rest will be history .... investors left with nothing to show for their money |
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Author : amanda (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 1083
Date : 05-23-10 12:20
So sorry to hear of all of your difficulties. I've got an apartment in Bansko and am lucky enough that it's been completed. Just to play devils ad for the mo. This is a company that you've invested in, it's not going to do them any good to have conversations like this going on in public. Why don't you try to get hold of other investors from Woodlands or St Davids, form an elected residents committee that can try to sort issues out bit by bit. I've noticed Zarka being mentioned, I've met her out there and she's very hard working but with the best will in the world I would have thought nobody can be all things to all men. In this current climate and with the added nightmare of this flood all of the investors need to stick together and try to work towards a possible positive solution not publically down this company. I don't have a hidden agenda, just a public servant working in the U.K with a Bansko apartment with a slightly different take on things although I appreciate I am not in a position such as yourselves. |
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Author : amanda (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 1083
Date : 05-23-10 12:22
So sorry to hear of all of your difficulties. I've got an apartment in Bansko and am lucky enough that it's been completed. Just to play devils ad for the mo. This is a company that you've invested in, it's not going to do them any good to have conversations like this going on in public. Why don't you try to get hold of other investors from Woodlands or St Davids, form an elected residents committee that can try to sort issues out bit by bit. I've noticed Zarka being mentioned, I've met her out there and she's very hard working but with the best will in the world I would have thought nobody can be all things to all men. In this current climate and with the added nightmare of this flood all of the investors need to stick together and try to work towards a possible positive solution not publically down this company. I don't have a hidden agenda, just a public servant working in the U.K with a Bansko apartment with a slightly different take on things although I appreciate I am not in a position such as yourselves. |
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Author : amanda (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 1083
Date : 05-23-10 12:25
Apologies for multiple entries, I'm never any good at these things! |
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Author : john fisher (95.144.45.---)
posts : 5
Date : 05-23-10 20:44
Hi Amanda thanks for your positive comments and you are correct in being positive and taking a community approach but when its got to the point that all your communications with the company have been ignored for over 9 months,company emails no longer active,all addresses changed by the company and £25 000 out of pocket it is very hard to feel positive , I myself have made arrangements to head to Bulgaria and also have set out to find Company employee's face to face to find out the truth which is all I need to know.
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Author : leigh atkins (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 1
Date : 05-29-10 13:51
i have bought an appartment at victoria villas and cannot get any contact at all i was wondering is their any body with any information . the only information i have got is from the web site balkanskichalets it is telling us they are drilling for water any replies are more than welcome
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 06-05-10 23:37
Hi Leigh.
Re Victoria Villas,I was on site last wed "2nd June and can confirm there was activity and the drilling machine was operating.Passed the property every day afterwards and the rig had been folded on to the back of a lorry,The building is looking very run down ,The render on the end elevation has fallen off probably due to the severe winter,Although this wall will be part of any future building ,All the appartment entrance door liners are twisted and warped,Nothing on site is serious and can be rectified,Hope this helps,Regards woodlands Spring investor. |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 06-11-10 15:52
I bought Woodland Spring block 1 in the early days. I spoke to Nigel Hole about 18 months ago who explained that he needed to resolve Woodland Spring as he had invested £0.5m into the project. It will be interesting to see if he does come and meet people as promised in the last circulation.
Anybody else had contact with him.
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 06-11-10 15:54
I bought Woodland Spring block 1 in the early days. I spoke to Nigel Hole about 18 months ago who explained that he needed to resolve Woodland Spring as he had invested £0.5m into the project. It will be interesting to see if he does come and meet people as promised in the last circulation.
Anybody else had contact with him.
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Author : stef (78.144.80.---)
posts : 67
Date : 07-28-10 00:48
Hi,
What do you all think bout the email from nigel hole saying we can now swap to another development and just pay the remainder of what we owe to purchase an apartment there?
My personal opinion is he is a complete liar, what would he and brittannia recieve out of it when they have debts of nearly £1 million pounds?, why does he say he 's going to contact me for a face to face meeting for the last 6 months but i have never heard off him?, who our the mystery clients he does meet up with? why would he not face the tv cameras and talk honestly? Why did andy moore race away in his 4x4 if they were doing everything they can for us? why did the investors pull out after seeing the 'Bad Press' which was on a welsh tv programme that had aviewing figure of about 250? Why does nigel never reply personally to any emails? Why will he not name the develpoment that he is talking about? Why does he say he's going to bansko and will report back to us in 2 weeks and we don't hear anything for months? are they going bankrupt? Why is this new develpoment 'Superior' to woodland springs? Why where they selling woodland springs as a golf resort when the actual golf course was/is private? why did they tell me an airport was been built near by? Why should i believe Mr Hole?------I don't but they do keep me entertained with there random emails/letters! i've accepted i've lost my money when our they going to accept they lie and are going bust?
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 07-28-10 12:47
I also have written off the money so would prefer some honesty. I asked why another developer would sell me an apartment for effectively 20% of its value assuming there is nothing left from Woodland Spring to give them. The other question I posed is how can Nigel Hole prove that he can be trusted with further money following our experience with him. I asked for a face-to-face meeting to give him the opportunity.
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 07-28-10 15:48
True i agree with some of your comments about the history and proposals.if we put everything to its conclusion,Woodlands Spring was not built to roof level for nothing, I viewed the virgin site in Oct "2006 and the building in Sept 2007at roof stage,I really feel some investors have not accepted the real impact BANKS have had on all development funding in Bansko and all over the globe,I am taking my investment at Woodlands to the wire with finanial safegards if i am offered a suitable alternative,Paul Taylor.app50 |
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 07-28-10 15:49
True i agree with some of your comments about the history and proposals.if we put everything to its conclusion,Woodlands Spring was not built to roof level for nothing, I viewed the virgin site in Oct "2006 and the building in Sept 2007at roof stage,I really feel some investors have not accepted the real impact BANKS have had on all development funding in Bansko and all over the globe,I am taking my investment at Woodlands to the wire with finanial safegards if i am offered a suitable alternative,Paul Taylor.app50 |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 07-28-10 15:58
Paul
Did you respond to Nigel Hole following his last email and have you heard from him since? I would need a lot of convincing before handing over any money and would only do if there is a group of us acting togther.
It's no longer relevant how we got into this position but a question of what happens next.
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 07-28-10 16:16
Richard,
I did respond,I have had no response to date ,I posted brief comments because the Banks are responsible for this situation we are in,and we need to accept that ,and move on and try to resolve our problem, My gut feeling is most people are not prepared to part with any more cash,so the lasted plan will fail.If it does go ahead Using one lawyer for all ,and an escrow account for the finance ,all should be quite secure Regards Paul |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 07-28-10 16:25
Paul
I agree on your comments on using the lawyer. People may agree to spend some more money once they have had chance to see Nigel Hole's proposals in detail and have a chance to discuss it with him.
Let's see what his next proposal is.
Do you know how to contact any other owners? If the majority of people have Mariyi as their lawyer that may be a starting point.
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 07-28-10 16:35
Richard
I used Stanislav, at Mitov law for my purchase,All the owners email contacts are on the emails sent fron Zarka,Is this your email address next to your name on your posting, Paul |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 07-28-10 16:45
Paul
It's my work email. My home one is the one on Zarka's list. It's a good idea to use her list to send out a mail to all interested parties. Zarka would be excluded!
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Author : Gail & Andy Battison (---.nhs.uk)
posts : 3
Date : 07-28-10 19:20
Hi
We were also using Mariya as our lawyer, please keep us linked into any ideas to help bring about a solution.
I agree with Paul about the banks bringing most of this problem about, we also went out and saw the build on two occasions. There was a lot of other development occuring in the area, so I don't belive Brittania will be the only company suffering. I know that whatever happens we will not get our money back, so the best solution for us would be any property they could offer us, better than nothing at all. We also emailed Nigel our comments, but have not heard back as yet.
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
posts : 24
Date : 07-30-10 11:09
RE RICHARD WEAKLEY,I HAVE SENT YOU A PM ,YOUR EMAIL ADD COME BACK SHOWING ERROR,CON YOU PM ME ,PAUL and BEV TAYLOR.ADDRESS IS GROUPED ON BRITTANIA EMAIL. |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range81-159.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 07-30-10 11:21
Happy to do so. How will I identify your email address on the Britannia list?
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Author : Chris Woolf (213.152.245.---)
posts : 8
Date : 07-30-10 14:44
Bought a place from Brittania off plan Regency Court, supposed to completed March 2010, yet to start!
Just been offered alternative place in same area of same or better standard proving we pay the remaining balance as per contract! Have been invited to view first.
I believe this is the case for those sat woodland Springs too, can anyone esle confirm this.
Brittannia have closed their UK office and operate soley out of Bulgaria.
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range81-159.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 07-30-10 15:10
Chris
I bought at Woodland Spring. We have had a similar offer on another property if we make the last payment. Keep in touch.
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 07-30-10 17:45
Its .self evident,listed paulandbevtaylor etc.Cheers Paul |
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-164.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 08-02-10 11:49
Paul/Bev
I can't find the email from Nigel Hole. If you want to get in touch with me, please email:
richard@40plusrecruitment.co.uk
I will mail you back and maybe we can have a phone conversation.
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-164.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 11
Date : 08-02-10 17:00
Chris
I have asked the Woodland Spring people if they want to form a group to deal with Nigel Hole as it may be beneficial to do so.
Do you want to contact, if you are able, the other buyers at Regency Court to swell the numbers?
richard@40plusrecruitment.co.uk
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Author : Chris Woolf (---.range81-135.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 8
Date : 08-02-10 22:40
Richard
That sounds like a good idea but I only have one other name, I was hoping by posting on this site it might have attracted a few more!
Perhaps I can some digging!
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Author : Chris Woolf (---.range81-135.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 08-02-10 22:40
Richard
That sounds like a good idea but I only have one other name, I was hoping by posting on this site it might have attracted a few more!
Perhaps I can some digging!
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Author : Richard Weakley (---.range86-164.btcentralplus.com)
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Date : 08-03-10 13:15
Chris
If you let me have your email address I will add you to the circulation list.
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:24
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:25
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:25
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
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Date : 08-04-10 00:25
Hello Richard
I would like to be put on your mailing list, thanks and I will get in touch. I have too bought at Woodlands Springs
Night for now
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Author : Chris Woolf (---.range81-135.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 8
Date : 08-04-10 07:27
Hi Richard
My e-mail address is chris130@btinternet.com .
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.tref.cable.virginmedia.com)
posts : 16
Date : 08-09-10 23:02
I HAVE TAKEN THIS FROM SILVER MOUNTAINS APARTMENTS FORUM (WHICH I HAVE COPIED)AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OURSELVES, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED : -
PLEASE READ BELOW.
Gaynor and Christian Cooper
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Author : Paula Wesley (206.57.126.---)
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Date : 07-09-10 12:21
Hi
We are in a similar position, we originally purchase with MRI some 6 years ago on a Complex in Florida, 4 years later the builder went bust we lost about £50k, they said we could transfer some of this money to a property in Bulgaria - Silver Mountain, last year we were told that building work had stopped and they estimated it would take another 2 years to get act 16, they offered us another property in Aspen Heights but again wanted more money to do so, money which we hadn't got, so we had no choice but to wait. We now get an email saying that the Site in SilverMountain is going into Receivership, BUT we they have given us a €100k credit note to use against another property in either Turkey, Spain, Cyprus, Florida but again want another €5000. We are setting us a meeting with them. Any Solicitor contact details would be much appreciated.
Paula
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.tref.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 08-09-10 23:02
I HAVE TAKEN THIS FROM SILVER MOUNTAINS APARTMENTS FORUM (WHICH I HAVE COPIED)AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OURSELVES, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED : -
PLEASE READ BELOW.
Gaynor and Christian Cooper
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Author : Paula Wesley (206.57.126.---)
posts : 1
Date : 07-09-10 12:21
Hi
We are in a similar position, we originally purchase with MRI some 6 years ago on a Complex in Florida, 4 years later the builder went bust we lost about £50k, they said we could transfer some of this money to a property in Bulgaria - Silver Mountain, last year we were told that building work had stopped and they estimated it would take another 2 years to get act 16, they offered us another property in Aspen Heights but again wanted more money to do so, money which we hadn't got, so we had no choice but to wait. We now get an email saying that the Site in SilverMountain is going into Receivership, BUT we they have given us a €100k credit note to use against another property in either Turkey, Spain, Cyprus, Florida but again want another €5000. We are setting us a meeting with them. Any Solicitor contact details would be much appreciated.
Paula
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.tref.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 08-09-10 23:02
I HAVE TAKEN THIS FROM SILVER MOUNTAINS APARTMENTS FORUM (WHICH I HAVE COPIED)AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OURSELVES, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED : -
PLEASE READ BELOW.
Gaynor and Christian Cooper
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Author : Paula Wesley (206.57.126.---)
posts : 1
Date : 07-09-10 12:21
Hi
We are in a similar position, we originally purchase with MRI some 6 years ago on a Complex in Florida, 4 years later the builder went bust we lost about £50k, they said we could transfer some of this money to a property in Bulgaria - Silver Mountain, last year we were told that building work had stopped and they estimated it would take another 2 years to get act 16, they offered us another property in Aspen Heights but again wanted more money to do so, money which we hadn't got, so we had no choice but to wait. We now get an email saying that the Site in SilverMountain is going into Receivership, BUT we they have given us a €100k credit note to use against another property in either Turkey, Spain, Cyprus, Florida but again want another €5000. We are setting us a meeting with them. Any Solicitor contact details would be much appreciated.
Paula
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.tref.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 08-09-10 23:02
I HAVE TAKEN THIS FROM SILVER MOUNTAINS APARTMENTS FORUM (WHICH I HAVE COPIED)AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OURSELVES, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED : -
PLEASE READ BELOW.
Gaynor and Christian Cooper
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Author : Paula Wesley (206.57.126.---)
posts : 1
Date : 07-09-10 12:21
Hi
We are in a similar position, we originally purchase with MRI some 6 years ago on a Complex in Florida, 4 years later the builder went bust we lost about £50k, they said we could transfer some of this money to a property in Bulgaria - Silver Mountain, last year we were told that building work had stopped and they estimated it would take another 2 years to get act 16, they offered us another property in Aspen Heights but again wanted more money to do so, money which we hadn't got, so we had no choice but to wait. We now get an email saying that the Site in SilverMountain is going into Receivership, BUT we they have given us a €100k credit note to use against another property in either Turkey, Spain, Cyprus, Florida but again want another €5000. We are setting us a meeting with them. Any Solicitor contact details would be much appreciated.
Paula
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Author : gaynor and christian cooper (---.tref.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 08-09-10 23:04
Sorry for the duplicate entries.
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Author : Chris Woolf (80.79.208.---)
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Date : 08-10-10 10:02
Up until I receieved the recent e-mails from Mr Hole re possible transfer to another property I had more or less written off my £10k deposit.
I had been excited and filled with some optimism over the latest offer , however I am still filled with a level of doubt about paying the remaining £25k, which is my balance.
On reflection the Skiing in Bansko is not that good compared with other European resorts and is very limited, the promises of increasing the skiing areas never seem to materilise and still remains a very small resort for skiing and will become very crowded on the slopes.
The outstanding £25k would buy me at least 30 years worth of skiing in any resort I want. I am now 51 although extremely active I feel 30 years more of skiing would see me happily into my grave, therefore the 25K I would have spent on any Bansko deal would be better spent elsewhere.
With that in mind I have decided not to pursure this any further and look forward to my trips to France in Jan and March next year.
I hope those of you who choose to continue with this venture the very best if luck and I do really hope it all works out for you all.
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Chris
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Author : Gail & Andy Battison (---.rdng.cable.virginmedia.com)
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Date : 08-10-10 10:28
Hi Richard
our email address is:
andrew.battison@ntlworld.com
or
gbattison@hotmail.com
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Author : firefighter (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
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Date : 08-10-10 20:27
Hi Gayor/ Christian,Its my opinion if you start comparing postings unrelated to our plight with Britannia ,you will get confused and misled and not focus on our dealings.Just be aware Britannia are a British Company operating in BULGARIA only.The company you mention are a world wide outfit who were the scum of the time share world before they moved into real estate,Now they have changed their name and have abandoned property buyers in Bansko .If our deal succeeds it will be from a company who is still there trying to find a solution in very difficult times.If we proceed as a group and engage a good lawyer to act for us all,and act 16 is active on the property ,we hopefully will succeed,so lets take it to the wire before we get sidetracted.Regards Paul |
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Author : stef (78.150.141.---)
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Date : 08-23-10 21:49
Did anyone actually recieve the update from mr hole as promised by Zara in an email recieved last friday? meetings due to start next monday, a bank holiday??? i can see it now - an email in 6 weeks thanking me for my patience and that he has been working desperately hard to do this and that blah blah blah. I wish you all good luck for those of you thinking of transfering but think the quicker nigel hole is out of the picture and you are dealing with a developer who is honest , trustworthy and reliable the better for all involved. |
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Author : stef (78.147.46.---)
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Date : 08-25-10 16:20
Did anyone see Brittania Managing directer and 'M1 Lux' operations manager, ANDY MOORE on Itv Wales news yesterday? Instead off running away from the cameras like he did when S4c tried to interview him regarding woodland springs he was more than happy to be interviewed regarding a charity walk that he is doing up mount killaminjaro. You will also be reassured to know that whilst we thought that in his position with both brittania and 'm1lux' he would habe been actively trying to sort out our invetments he has instead been busy training for this once in a lifetime trip. Mr moore i could think of a charity you could do your walk for its called 'The poor people who i took hundreds of thousands of pounds off and left them with nothing fund'
Shame Itv didn't know his past so they could have asked him some awkward questions in front of his peers, feel free to look at the story at http://www.itv.com/wales/captains-climb79197/ .
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Author : john fisher (95.144.50.---)
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Date : 08-26-10 22:46
Had A phone call today from someone representing Brittania saying a new offer will be sent threw the post in the next week anyone else had it....I want to speak to Andy Moore face to face.
And will do so if he likes it or not.
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Author : stef (78.147.39.---)
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Date : 08-26-10 23:29
No, i never had a call today, what a suprise it wasn't from Hole. I'am not going to go ahead with the purchase anymore however I can't wait to get a personal meeting to 'discuuss' the situation with Nigel hole. |
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Author : stef (78.147.36.---)
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Date : 08-27-10 21:34
Ha Ha, Suprise suprise the friday email at tea time with the latest bull that Mr hole has to offer.
1. meetings in his new offices.
TRUTH- Meetings held in office rented for the day.
2. Meetings with owners only.
TRUTH- worried bout getting a kickin,
3. Confidentiality agreement must be signed.
TRUTH- scared about his reputation getting battered further in the press.
Why will he not meet a group of us instead wanting private meetings with his new sales manager to pressure and bully us into buying.
Why do we have to pay for our flights to view the new develpoment, i haven't had my free viewing trip for woodland springs yet?
I have had a reporter email me today regarding turning up to confront Nigel in a follow up to the previous programme aired on tv a few months ago. How did he know about these meetings so quick? Has he been in touch with any of you?
Personally i hope they don't as i don't want there to be any evidence of what goes on in my meeting. |
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