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Borovets, watch your prices

Simes Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-10-08 23:34

re: Borovets, watch your prices

Im with Arron, I too returned last night from my 7th trip to borovets and yes the prices have indeed gone up but on the whole are still cheeper than you get here and in most places you get a damn good measure of whatever your drinking. So yes the prices have gone up but i think its still very good value and as said before there is that magic about the place that makes it all the fun, I will be back again next year without a doubt. I think the moral of all this is if your not happy with it ...
Im with Arron, I too returned last night from my 7th trip to borovets and yes the prices have indeed gone up but on the whole are still cheeper than you get here and in most places you get a damn good measure of whatever your drinking. So yes the prices have gone up but i think its still very good value and as said before there is that magic about the place that makes it all the fun, I will be back again next year without a doubt. I think the moral of all this is if your not happy with it then dont go.

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Raph Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-10-08 23:46

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I'm totally lovin' this debate - & yes it will run & run - I think that Borovets is setting its stall out to be a world class resort. In doing so it is having to feel the pain of transition from cheap & cheerful to stylish - yet - affordable.

Following the undoubted improvements from ' Super Borovets' I think that their strategy might turn out to have been the right one and that Borovets will continue to prove itself as a good value family resort.

Pamporovo Pete Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-11-08 01:33
Sune Author:Sune posts : 1354   (Master)Date : 02-11-08 16:33

re: Borovets, watch your prices

Pete you have to wait some more weeks. If you are in Borovez you can test as long as you want. And don't miss the trip to Samokov with Tanny, they know some good places. Check out the potteries or the coppersmith. Join some Vodka/O or just have a coffee and a banitza near the market.

Sune

P.S. Do not forget to buy a bottle of wine for Angie in the wholesaler at the corner by the market...
Mojo Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-11-08 17:46

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Really good thread this, we're off to Boro on 23rd for our 5th trip and its good to know I can look here for advice. Thanks guys x Very Happy
emmie-lou Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-11-08 18:05

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all in all it was a good trip with good prices, admittedly 10lev for a taxi to go what would be a 10minute walk was a bit steep but all in all it was a fab trip and if you dont mind a walk in the morning, id recomend Hotel Bor, thats where we stayed and it was good.
Basil Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 02-12-08 03:11

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"...the property prices will drop..."

According to the Financial Times, they are already dropping which means the restaurant, etc. proprietors may like to reconsider the price hikes, well, hopefully:

Bulgaria loses its allure for UK buyers
By Kerin Hope in Athens and Theodor Troev in Sofia

Published: February 8 2008 17:36 | Last updated: February 8 2008 17:36

British home buyers have disappeared from Bansko, a leading Bulgarian ski resort and until recently a “hot-spot” for ...
"...the property prices will drop..."

According to the Financial Times, they are already dropping which means the restaurant, etc. proprietors may like to reconsider the price hikes, well, hopefully:

Bulgaria loses its allure for UK buyers
By Kerin Hope in Athens and Theodor Troev in Sofia

Published: February 8 2008 17:36 | Last updated: February 8 2008 17:36

British home buyers have disappeared from Bansko, a leading Bulgarian ski resort and until recently a “hot-spot” for people seeking moderately priced holiday properties.

Since the global credit crunch took hold, purchases by UK investors of Bulgarian properties priced between €45,000 ($65,000, £33,500) and €90,000 have fallen sharply, according to Sofia-based estate agents.

Hugh Fraser, of Sofia-based LS Property, said: “Our research suggests that only about 30 apartments were sold in Bansko last month and the buyers were Russians and Greeks.” This compares with sales two years ago of more than 500 properties a month to UK and Irish buyers.

Such a steep decline suggests Bulgaria’s holiday home boom, which has focused on Bansko and Sunny Beach, the leading resort on the Black Sea coast, may be over.

Property developers have been offering discounts of 8-12 per cent in buildings nearing completion in Bansko. Meanwhile, prices for new apartments in Sunny Beach have fallen by 7-8 per cent.

“Attitudes have changed. With house prices stagnating, it is much harder for UK customers to release equity to buy a second home,” said Rossen Dimov, managing director of Rockarch Estates, a London-based agency selling Bulgarian properties.

Mihail Chobanov, chief executive of Bulgarian Properties, one of the country’s biggest estate agencies, believes that about 50 per cent of UK investors who took a punt on the Bulgarian market four years ago are now trying to sell their properties. “Speculative buyers want to cash out and move on,” he said.

While tightening credit conditions have given the market a decisive downward push, Bulgaria’s appeal for UK investors was already starting to fade.

Rapid development at Bansko and Sunny Beach resulted in an over-supply of lower-priced apartments, putting a severe strain on local infrastructure. An estimated 85 per cent of UK investors bought properties off-plan without having visited Bulgaria.

On arrival in the country many were disappointed by mediocre construction quality and local developers’ lack of concern for the environment.

Rental incomes on the Black Sea coast have been lower than expected, according to investors. “Estate agents talked about a six-month season and yearly returns of 6-8 per cent. The reality is more like three months and under 3 per cent,” said David, a Dubai-based IT worker who bought at Sunny Beach two years ago. He declined to give his full name.

Two years ago 90 per cent of Rockarch’s customers were UK investors, including a sizeable number of expatriates living in the Gulf states. Mr Dimov said the client mix changed last summer, with cash-rich Russians replacing buyers from the UK. “In the past six months 60 per cent of sales were to Russians, 10 per cent to Greeks and Poles and only 30 per cent to the British,” Mr Dimov said.

Julia Titova, of Best Real Estate, a Moscow-based estate agent, said that Bulgaria had overtaken Montenegro and Spain as the most popular foreign country for Russians wanting to buy a holiday home. “Bulgaria is seen as an excellent place for family holidays,” Ms Titova said. “It is nearer than the Mediterranean and it is more affordable than the Russian Black Sea resorts.”

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nick tregale Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 11-02-08 22:05

re: Borovets, watch your prices

Hi going to borovets over xmas, staying at the ela does anyone know their e mail address and also best place to go for a group of twelve people
Thanks