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Destroying Borovets
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posts : 13 (Beginner)Date : 02-09-05 11:58Destroying Borovets
Over the next 4 years the government in Bulgaria are to spend at least 100 million Euros to upgrade the Borovets resort from Samokov town which is to be called Lower Borovets up to further up the mountain beyond the village of Borovets as it is now and this will be called Super Borovets.
One of the projects that the government is looking at is to remove a lot of the small chalet type cafes, clubs, bars and shops and replace them with large hotels to take the accomadation from 6,000 beds as ...
One of the projects that the government is looking at is to remove a lot of the small chalet type cafes, clubs, bars and shops and replace them with large hotels to take the accomadation from 6,000 beds as ...
Over the next 4 years the government in Bulgaria are to spend at least 100 million Euros to upgrade the Borovets resort from Samokov town which is to be called Lower Borovets up to further up the mountain beyond the village of Borovets as it is now and this will be called Super Borovets.
One of the projects that the government is looking at is to remove a lot of the small chalet type cafes, clubs, bars and shops and replace them with large hotels to take the accomadation from 6,000 beds as it is now up to 15,000 beds.
If they do this the resort will be very different and for me will lose it's quaint appeal.
The descision has not been made yet whether to take the chalets down yet but it would be a great shame if they were.
Does anyone agree with me or would you prefer it to alter.
Your views please.
Richard.
One of the projects that the government is looking at is to remove a lot of the small chalet type cafes, clubs, bars and shops and replace them with large hotels to take the accomadation from 6,000 beds as it is now up to 15,000 beds.
If they do this the resort will be very different and for me will lose it's quaint appeal.
The descision has not been made yet whether to take the chalets down yet but it would be a great shame if they were.
Does anyone agree with me or would you prefer it to alter.
Your views please.
Richard.
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Hi Richard,it's gonna change already in 2007 with the euro & EG membership so...
but on the other hand it brings jobs, money en etc. for the local people!
I think that the small chalets will stay, it's their biggest attraction...
So don't wait till then but go NOW....
Tanjette
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Same thing will happen in Pamporovo and Bansko. I agree it is a shame but you cant blame them for wanting to create more jobs and larger income through tourism. No answer really we are all going to have to accept it even PP! I personally wish they would leave everything as it is. I will try Pamps again next year to see no doubt even more changes.
The problem is as Pete said they are wanting to add loads more beds in resort but not loads more pistes so it could end up being overcrowded ...
The problem is as Pete said they are wanting to add loads more beds in resort but not loads more pistes so it could end up being overcrowded ...
Same thing will happen in Pamporovo and Bansko. I agree it is a shame but you cant blame them for wanting to create more jobs and larger income through tourism. No answer really we are all going to have to accept it even PP! I personally wish they would leave everything as it is. I will try Pamps again next year to see no doubt even more changes.
The problem is as Pete said they are wanting to add loads more beds in resort but not loads more pistes so it could end up being overcrowded.
I will be trying Bansko in 2007 before that gets really busy then I might consider moving on if things get worse in BG. Perhaps I will try Serbia which is up and coming also Lake Bled in Slovenia and even Romania.
The problem is as Pete said they are wanting to add loads more beds in resort but not loads more pistes so it could end up being overcrowded.
I will be trying Bansko in 2007 before that gets really busy then I might consider moving on if things get worse in BG. Perhaps I will try Serbia which is up and coming also Lake Bled in Slovenia and even Romania.
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The borovets are to have more runs and pistes as far out as Bela Iska ( maybe spelt wrong ) and as far down to Samokov town.In total I think that the runs will almost double.
Richard.
re: Destroying Borovets
Hi Daniel
Skied in Kranska Gora (Slovenia) last season and the same applies as BG. A lot of development (especially 5 stars with casinos). The same problem applies with the development of the ski area in this resort, barely keeping pace with the expansion of the town. One note, talk of mafia types, the rumour (fact?) that all the casino type hotels are paid for by Russian money (mafia) legally attracting gamblers from Austria, Italy which Slovenia borders, there did seem to be a large ...
Skied in Kranska Gora (Slovenia) last season and the same applies as BG. A lot of development (especially 5 stars with casinos). The same problem applies with the development of the ski area in this resort, barely keeping pace with the expansion of the town. One note, talk of mafia types, the rumour (fact?) that all the casino type hotels are paid for by Russian money (mafia) legally attracting gamblers from Austria, Italy which Slovenia borders, there did seem to be a large ...
Hi Daniel
Skied in Kranska Gora (Slovenia) last season and the same applies as BG. A lot of development (especially 5 stars with casinos). The same problem applies with the development of the ski area in this resort, barely keeping pace with the expansion of the town. One note, talk of mafia types, the rumour (fact?) that all the casino type hotels are paid for by Russian money (mafia) legally attracting gamblers from Austria, Italy which Slovenia borders, there did seem to be a large number of BMW X5 and the like with blacked out windows in the resort...
Stick it out in BG, i can never see it becoming a premier area attracting the types who ski in Gstadd or Verbier, expansion will bring benefits like improved ski area and better lifts, more bars and restaurants with better choice..
Resorts in BG will remain as good as the people who decide to holiday there. If the resorts mess up then no one will go, a possibility but unlikely..
It is only my opinion for what its worth, i have seen resorts expand in the last twenty five years (especially the southern french) and although the little villagey atmoshpere was lost the benefits more than made up for it.
Cheers
steve c
Skied in Kranska Gora (Slovenia) last season and the same applies as BG. A lot of development (especially 5 stars with casinos). The same problem applies with the development of the ski area in this resort, barely keeping pace with the expansion of the town. One note, talk of mafia types, the rumour (fact?) that all the casino type hotels are paid for by Russian money (mafia) legally attracting gamblers from Austria, Italy which Slovenia borders, there did seem to be a large number of BMW X5 and the like with blacked out windows in the resort...
Stick it out in BG, i can never see it becoming a premier area attracting the types who ski in Gstadd or Verbier, expansion will bring benefits like improved ski area and better lifts, more bars and restaurants with better choice..
Resorts in BG will remain as good as the people who decide to holiday there. If the resorts mess up then no one will go, a possibility but unlikely..
It is only my opinion for what its worth, i have seen resorts expand in the last twenty five years (especially the southern french) and although the little villagey atmoshpere was lost the benefits more than made up for it.
Cheers
steve c
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Hi Steve, I will always come back to BG, but do fancy trying other places as well. I very nearly went to Lake Bled in 98 as it looks stunning. Serbia is an option too as it is undiscoverd. What I am worried about with Pamps is the proposed doubling of beds but only adding 5km of extra pistes! This will only result in over crowding.re: Destroying Borovets
Hi Daniel..
Totally understand where you are coming from regarding Pamps, it was there lack of area expansion that prompted me to buy in Bansko. The expansion possibilities there are endless as it sits within three ranges, large Europeon banks are now financing the lift installations (obviously for the huge returns) and the goverment are overlooking any objections from enviromentalists and the like in the planning of new pistes (consider that Bansko is in a national park). The planned ...
Totally understand where you are coming from regarding Pamps, it was there lack of area expansion that prompted me to buy in Bansko. The expansion possibilities there are endless as it sits within three ranges, large Europeon banks are now financing the lift installations (obviously for the huge returns) and the goverment are overlooking any objections from enviromentalists and the like in the planning of new pistes (consider that Bansko is in a national park). The planned ...
Hi Daniel..
Totally understand where you are coming from regarding Pamps, it was there lack of area expansion that prompted me to buy in Bansko. The expansion possibilities there are endless as it sits within three ranges, large Europeon banks are now financing the lift installations (obviously for the huge returns) and the goverment are overlooking any objections from enviromentalists and the like in the planning of new pistes (consider that Bansko is in a national park). The planned building will bring up occupency to 20,000 but with decent planning the area can easily cope with that.
With referance to other areas, there are still undiscovered resorts (to the English at least) in France, Spain (mostly in the Pyranees) and in Italy. I skied in a resort called `Castle di Sangro' 25km from Rome, completely Italian, in fact little or no English spoken, very cheap but not a great welcome as you get the feeling that they want to keep it to themselves, i found the same in the more unknown resorts in the Pyranees.
As for Serbia i don`t know, if the investment has not been there in the past then the area could be poorly served lift wise (i skied in Borovets 25 years ago, my god! Poma drag lifts and no chairs) If there is a load of new investment then we are back to where you are in Pamps, granted with good planning it could work out.
Perhaps chasing the Dollar will be BG`s downfall, i hope not, time will tell....
Best regards and cheers
steve c
Totally understand where you are coming from regarding Pamps, it was there lack of area expansion that prompted me to buy in Bansko. The expansion possibilities there are endless as it sits within three ranges, large Europeon banks are now financing the lift installations (obviously for the huge returns) and the goverment are overlooking any objections from enviromentalists and the like in the planning of new pistes (consider that Bansko is in a national park). The planned building will bring up occupency to 20,000 but with decent planning the area can easily cope with that.
With referance to other areas, there are still undiscovered resorts (to the English at least) in France, Spain (mostly in the Pyranees) and in Italy. I skied in a resort called `Castle di Sangro' 25km from Rome, completely Italian, in fact little or no English spoken, very cheap but not a great welcome as you get the feeling that they want to keep it to themselves, i found the same in the more unknown resorts in the Pyranees.
As for Serbia i don`t know, if the investment has not been there in the past then the area could be poorly served lift wise (i skied in Borovets 25 years ago, my god! Poma drag lifts and no chairs) If there is a load of new investment then we are back to where you are in Pamps, granted with good planning it could work out.
Perhaps chasing the Dollar will be BG`s downfall, i hope not, time will tell....
Best regards and cheers
steve c
