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posts : 13 (Beginner)Date : 05-17-06 01:00Oh dear!
Looks like the EU have taken a less than favourable view of Bulgaria's "automatic" acceptance to the community.re: Oh dear!
Nothing in life is automatic. The final verdict has just been put back a few months. Cant see your point realy?
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Worst case scenario... they join a year later (1/1/0
if they fail to reform... maybe life ain't so bad afterall!Regards
Justin
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i feel its too early for them really. too much corruption, poverty and back handers goi on in Bulgaria. A half hearted effort really.re: Oh dear!
I've got a horrible feeling Bulgaria will remain excluded.
EU membership will really help the country, but if the EU bureaucrats believe (correctly or otherwise) that the money invested is likely to be hived off by corrupt officials then they may block acceptance.
If the EU want the Bulgarian govt to crack down on corruption, then they should assist in some capacity. I doubt the govt can make a real difference in the few months allowed before the review of the position.
Glad to see ...
EU membership will really help the country, but if the EU bureaucrats believe (correctly or otherwise) that the money invested is likely to be hived off by corrupt officials then they may block acceptance.
If the EU want the Bulgarian govt to crack down on corruption, then they should assist in some capacity. I doubt the govt can make a real difference in the few months allowed before the review of the position.
Glad to see ...
I've got a horrible feeling Bulgaria will remain excluded.
EU membership will really help the country, but if the EU bureaucrats believe (correctly or otherwise) that the money invested is likely to be hived off by corrupt officials then they may block acceptance.
If the EU want the Bulgarian govt to crack down on corruption, then they should assist in some capacity. I doubt the govt can make a real difference in the few months allowed before the review of the position.
Glad to see the beeb spending a few minutes last night on the plight of the average Bulgarian. V few people over here are aware of just how much poverty there is in the country.
pq
EU membership will really help the country, but if the EU bureaucrats believe (correctly or otherwise) that the money invested is likely to be hived off by corrupt officials then they may block acceptance.
If the EU want the Bulgarian govt to crack down on corruption, then they should assist in some capacity. I doubt the govt can make a real difference in the few months allowed before the review of the position.
Glad to see the beeb spending a few minutes last night on the plight of the average Bulgarian. V few people over here are aware of just how much poverty there is in the country.
pq
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Not making a point, Daniel. Perhaps I should have put "Discuss" after the statement, for that's all it is. Neither, as I assume you may be thinking, am I "knocking" Bulgaria, indeed we are just sorting out our booking to Bansko, late Feb 07.
I guess the only thing I have to add apart from the excellent (unbiased) news coverage (I agree Pat Q) on BBC & ITV, are the numbers of people buying property out there that I met who told me Bulgarias EU acceptance was "automatic", and based their ...
I guess the only thing I have to add apart from the excellent (unbiased) news coverage (I agree Pat Q) on BBC & ITV, are the numbers of people buying property out there that I met who told me Bulgarias EU acceptance was "automatic", and based their ...
Not making a point, Daniel. Perhaps I should have put "Discuss" after the statement, for that's all it is. Neither, as I assume you may be thinking, am I "knocking" Bulgaria, indeed we are just sorting out our booking to Bansko, late Feb 07.
I guess the only thing I have to add apart from the excellent (unbiased) news coverage (I agree Pat Q) on BBC & ITV, are the numbers of people buying property out there that I met who told me Bulgarias EU acceptance was "automatic", and based their expected real estate "killing" on that.
The EU will bend over backwards to let Bulgaria (and Romania) in, but when it's ranked alongside Columbia as 55th most corrupt country (perceived), even they can't ignore that.
I too tend to agree with Pat & Guff, unfortunately. When you go there and see coppers waiting at the half way stop on the transfer, and see them speed of up the road just before the coach pulls off, only to stop it 5 miles up the road to take a backhander to let the coach pass, you know there's still alot to sort out.
I genuinely wish them luck.
And Daniel, take your rose tinted off, please.
Mr P.
I guess the only thing I have to add apart from the excellent (unbiased) news coverage (I agree Pat Q) on BBC & ITV, are the numbers of people buying property out there that I met who told me Bulgarias EU acceptance was "automatic", and based their expected real estate "killing" on that.
The EU will bend over backwards to let Bulgaria (and Romania) in, but when it's ranked alongside Columbia as 55th most corrupt country (perceived), even they can't ignore that.
I too tend to agree with Pat & Guff, unfortunately. When you go there and see coppers waiting at the half way stop on the transfer, and see them speed of up the road just before the coach pulls off, only to stop it 5 miles up the road to take a backhander to let the coach pass, you know there's still alot to sort out.
I genuinely wish them luck.
And Daniel, take your rose tinted off, please.
Mr P.
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Bearing in mind that the majority of the larger scale Bulgarian businesses/infrastructure has already been bought out by Western companies I really cannot see their exclusion beyond 1/1/2008.Regards
Justin
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We'll see.The one thing that the EU doesn't like is big business.....
They don't come much bigger than Microsoft...and look at the sh*t the EU's throwing at them.
And already by your statement we've gone back a year, Justin.
Will that be "just-in time or just-too-late".
And again, this has nothing to do with knocking Bulgaria. Just wake up and smell the coffee.
Mr P.
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You really think that Microsoft call the EU a hard time?... I'll buy that for a dollar!Whatever next, Russia taking over staple European utilities and devouring their social pastime.
Hope lies with the Proles my friend!
Regards
Justin
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The EU have just 'fined' microsoft several hundred million euros for 'illegal' market practises (has gone to appeal).
I call that a "hard time", don't you?
Anyway the M/soft situation doesn't alter what I've said above, and the EU has said they may delay Bulgarias entry as a result. Although there have been advances, the place is fundamentally corrupt. And that's not knocking Bulgaria/Bulgarians. It's rarely the "common" people that are at the root of such a problem, whatever country ...
I call that a "hard time", don't you?
Anyway the M/soft situation doesn't alter what I've said above, and the EU has said they may delay Bulgarias entry as a result. Although there have been advances, the place is fundamentally corrupt. And that's not knocking Bulgaria/Bulgarians. It's rarely the "common" people that are at the root of such a problem, whatever country ...
The EU have just 'fined' microsoft several hundred million euros for 'illegal' market practises (has gone to appeal).
I call that a "hard time", don't you?
Anyway the M/soft situation doesn't alter what I've said above, and the EU has said they may delay Bulgarias entry as a result. Although there have been advances, the place is fundamentally corrupt. And that's not knocking Bulgaria/Bulgarians. It's rarely the "common" people that are at the root of such a problem, whatever country we would wish to talk about.
The moment anyone has anything to say on this board that has anything negative (for that read honest) about BG in it and the same old faces immediately jump to it's defence without considering if what they say is even close to the mark.
I'm going back. I'm going to put some money into the local economy, and some of it might just help the people who need it. But I'm under no illusions where the majority will go.
Mr P.
I call that a "hard time", don't you?
Anyway the M/soft situation doesn't alter what I've said above, and the EU has said they may delay Bulgarias entry as a result. Although there have been advances, the place is fundamentally corrupt. And that's not knocking Bulgaria/Bulgarians. It's rarely the "common" people that are at the root of such a problem, whatever country we would wish to talk about.
The moment anyone has anything to say on this board that has anything negative (for that read honest) about BG in it and the same old faces immediately jump to it's defence without considering if what they say is even close to the mark.
I'm going back. I'm going to put some money into the local economy, and some of it might just help the people who need it. But I'm under no illusions where the majority will go.
Mr P.
