hey peter what happens when we have 2cm of snow in the uk when they shut the schools we have to take time off work to look after them should we start asking schools for compensation ?? what happens when schools do skiing trips in term time ?? i shall be taking my kids to boro on 20th fine or no fine
I never said it would be a popular view and once again kudos to all of you who have benefited from being taken out of school so your parents can have an extra few quid – I acknowledge that it is extortionate to travel during school holiday time but you got the children so you bought the ticket I am afraid. I do take the moral high ground and all of your comments about university of life are well and good but the evidence is there It doesn’t help your children to take then out of school ...
I never said it would be a popular view and once again kudos to all of you who have benefited from being taken out of school so your parents can have an extra few quid – I acknowledge that it is extortionate to travel during school holiday time but you got the children so you bought the ticket I am afraid. I do take the moral high ground and all of your comments about university of life are well and good but the evidence is there It doesn’t help your children to take then out of school during term time sorry – You can say what you like but it is detrimental to your children’s upbringing just so you can save a buck or two – I am afraid to say - you simply need to work harder and pay for holidays at appropriate times.
Ian 2 cm of snow - I agree that h&s has gone mad but taking a further week off doesn’t help. I urge you to all look at the evidence that is on the web not the anecdotal musings of a few parents or people who purport to be teachers on this board. Finally if you are going to take them out at least give them the opportunity to take their exams without the disruption of a holiday.
So - 10 GCSE's, 4 A-levels, studied for a nursing diploma, then a career change and became a qualified Financial Adviser.
All this and my parents did, on an odd occasion, take me out of school as I went to a grammar school that had different holidays to my brother at the local state school. or vice versa.
Oh, and by the way, my brother also did well at school and went to university, also has qualifications in health & safety.
My mum and dad worked all the hours possible to provide ...
So - 10 GCSE's, 4 A-levels, studied for a nursing diploma, then a career change and became a qualified Financial Adviser.
All this and my parents did, on an odd occasion, take me out of school as I went to a grammar school that had different holidays to my brother at the local state school. or vice versa.
Oh, and by the way, my brother also did well at school and went to university, also has qualifications in health & safety.
My mum and dad worked all the hours possible to provide for their family, in industries that relied on their business coming from such things as factory maintenance on shut down periods. As these tended to be during school holidays, my dad couldn't always get time off when we were off school.
So before you spout off about "work harder", just consider that not everybody is in the same position as yourself and for a family to simply spend some time together, the only option may on an odd occasion be to take a few days out of school.
I know neither I nor my brother suffered any ill effects on our education.
Peter, I am a teacher and I take our school ski trip. I would be happy to take it at half term but it is only two days!!! Out of the forty children we took last year, 37 improved their class placing. It is a motivating influence for the six months before the trip and the improved staff/pupil relationships last for much longer. We have one pupil whp has cut his "demerits" from 112 to 15( for the same time period) since he knew he was allowed to go on the ski trip)
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stephen
Peter, I am a teacher and I take our school ski trip. I would be happy to take it at half term but it is only two days!!! Out of the forty children we took last year, 37 improved their class placing. It is a motivating influence for the six months before the trip and the improved staff/pupil relationships last for much longer. We have one pupil whp has cut his "demerits" from 112 to 15( for the same time period) since he knew he was allowed to go on the ski trip)
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stephen
Peter,
let me join in with this discussion. I agree that we should do all we can to ensure the kids stay in school. education very important etc etc. schools starting to fine parents for taking them out of school, dont agree with that as it is the parents responsibility to ensure their child is in school. I do always ensure our ski trip is during the school break knowing that i have to endure the early mornings to get to the gondola before the queue starts building, knowing the slopes ...
Peter,
let me join in with this discussion. I agree that we should do all we can to ensure the kids stay in school. education very important etc etc. schools starting to fine parents for taking them out of school, dont agree with that as it is the parents responsibility to ensure their child is in school. I do always ensure our ski trip is during the school break knowing that i have to endure the early mornings to get to the gondola before the queue starts building, knowing the slopes are busy and the flights overpriced. what really gets me cross is the school arranging school ski trips to europe the week after half term holiday, taking the kids out of school. when asking the teacher why, his response to me was it was for safety reasons as the slopes will not be as busy. agree completely, and something I may have to adopt next year and beyond. rant over......
Kids going skiing in or out half term... they don't know they're born, we never went on holiday because we were so poor. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
....Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six ...
Kids going skiing in or out half term... they don't know they're born, we never went on holiday because we were so poor. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
....Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
.....Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
....Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
....And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.