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what size

jimbobski Author:jimbobski posts : 112   (Intermediate)Date : 04-18-09 22:40

what size

im buying a new pair of skis this year,but not sure what size. im 510 and my skis now are 164but in france and bulgaria this year i noticed alot of instructors this year on much shorter skis for their hight. I was just wondering the pros and cons?
Pamporovo Pete Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-19-09 01:41

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As a rule of thumb, skis should touch the end of your nose when stood up on end.

Not very scientific, but a good basic guide.



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Steve C Author:Steve C posts : 2898   (Master)Date : 04-19-09 11:34

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What a can of worms to open !!!

As a very basic guide... GS (giant slalom) skis designed for longer radius turns at speed tend to be a little longer, if carver style will be around `nose' length.
Slalom skis if carver style for tighter slower turns will be around your chin, these will not be so stable at speed...
There are the exceptions, and these now are many with the introduction of twin tips, park, all mountain, slalom X, comp etc...
As a rule of thumb from the old days and im ...
What a can of worms to open !!!

As a very basic guide... GS (giant slalom) skis designed for longer radius turns at speed tend to be a little longer, if carver style will be around `nose' length.
Slalom skis if carver style for tighter slower turns will be around your chin, these will not be so stable at speed...
There are the exceptions, and these now are many with the introduction of twin tips, park, all mountain, slalom X, comp etc...
As a rule of thumb from the old days and im assuming this still applies... the longer the ski the more stable, but more difficult to turn, the shorter the ski the less stable but easier to turn...
I may be dispelling my own advice though, have just taught my son to ski on 185cm all mountain twin tips, who after just a few hours was carving long radius turns in complete control, granted the skis were perfect for the soft slushy conditions Cool
Actually, completely ignore my advice, buy em if you like the colour hehehehehe, thats what my mates girlfriend did..... Razz

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Gogs Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-19-09 15:55

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You certainly have opened a can of worms, with carving skis a good rule of thumb is up to your nose, if there not it carving skis it really depends on your ability.
jimbobski Author:jimbobski posts : 112   (Intermediate)Date : 04-19-09 18:28

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thanks people, i have carvers at the moment but been told i need anew pair because they have to much flex in,and the edges dont grip on the icy steep runs. just wondering why some of the instuctors were opting for short skis? im high inter/advance
Steve C Author:Steve C posts : 2898   (Master)Date : 04-19-09 21:56

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Holding on ice is more about your technique than your skis, a very flexy short carver will undoubtably not hold as well as a stiff carver, especially a slalom.... but you must work harder to get the slalom to turn well, and it will definately be more unstable at speed because of its tendancy to hook... Always a compromise Cool
jimbobski Author:jimbobski posts : 112   (Intermediate)Date : 04-20-09 00:20

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cheers steve c
i have a pair of blizzard cross carvers,nice skis very light good off piste.my father has a pair of apachie k2.ive skied on both. both same length!im not fast enought for slamom,just dunno what skis to look at now,
Steve C Author:Steve C posts : 2898   (Master)Date : 04-20-09 08:03

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jimbobski, im thinking you have the same ski as i have used, the Blizzard Cross X in a 166cm, green and white with integral binding ??
If this is your ski then i can tell you that they are quite stiff and should hold on ice quite well. They are not a full blown race slalom but they are still a race ski, ski cross where 4 people go head to head on a winding course. They have quite a radical sidecut for quick turns but are a little softer in the tail to cope with the type of turns and jumps ...
jimbobski, im thinking you have the same ski as i have used, the Blizzard Cross X in a 166cm, green and white with integral binding ??
If this is your ski then i can tell you that they are quite stiff and should hold on ice quite well. They are not a full blown race slalom but they are still a race ski, ski cross where 4 people go head to head on a winding course. They have quite a radical sidecut for quick turns but are a little softer in the tail to cope with the type of turns and jumps they will encounter on a course.
See if you can get a ride on a race slalom, maybe the Rossignol Radical RS or the latest version of the Volkl Racetiger SL, a very stiff ski...
Maybe ski them in a slightly longer length as you will not be racing, 168-170, they are going to be a little unweildy and may require a bit of work but the rewards will be many, especially in the rebound off a turn. It will be a pure piste ski and on that basis great for what its designed to do. You could then set yourself up with a decent pair of all-mountain twintips, if your into off-piste then in a long length, and you will discover how much you were struggling with the blizzards.
I read somewhere that a skier had said `you would not go onto a golf course with one club' , well, its the same with skis, you either accept a compromise in a ski for all conditions, or you buy a couple pairs of skis suited to the conditions you want to ski... Cool

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Gogs Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-20-09 10:55

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Carvers we not designed for ice, they give a much better performance on nice powdered snow.
fraser Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-20-09 11:44

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skiis are the tools, technique is what gets you over ice, afterall if youve got the money you can buy an F1 car, doesnt mean you can drive it.!