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Phoenix II Bansko
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Author : Alexandra Holmes (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 3
Date : 04-20-08 20:32
I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who has bought an apartment in Phoenix II. If you have - PLEASE DO NOT sign the Maintenance Agreement yet as they are asking too much and the place is not even finished.
To anyone out there I recommend Furniture Box for all your furniture needs and Backup if you need a really good Managing Agent.
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-21-08 13:40
ive brought in victoria.should of been finished december,looks like july,but thats without pool and gym they say should be done by november!how are we supposed to feel,we were stitched up with english estate agenets,promising golf courses and horse riding a year round destination,,,crap,,,sorry but a lot of people have used all there savings and seen this as a way to make a bit of money to pay for itself and have a pension out of it,,how can you not get frustrated......and yeah there is mafia,,2 big beefy blokes wiyth shades and phill mitchell style leather jackets tried to run me off the road.! gosh i could say some bad stuff about the place, but to be honest there is good and bad everywhere........some countries just worse than others...hint hint
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Author : alex (---.plus.com)
posts : 136
Date : 04-21-08 18:04
I know what you mean, we bought it as an "investment and pension" but hey, we've got to give them time to get it right. If they get it wrong we are not the only ones who suffer. We have been lucky, apart from the problems we have experienced with the apartment we have met good people.
Let's face it - the UK is getting bad lately with all the stabbings, etc. We need to clean up our act too.
Fingers crossed all will be OK in the end but we will have to wait a while.
Backup is great, Martin Netov runs it, doesn't charge a fortune and is extremely trustworthy!! martin.netov@backup-hg.com
Good Luck
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-21-08 18:12
Kellie - an investment is an investment, unless its cash in the bank then there is risk involved. Everyones acceptance of risk is different.
From your post it looks like you may have bought within what 2 years? And not fully paid over the final instalment yet. Property is a LONG term investment in any country - in the UK over the last 10 years he boom may have clouded that reality but that is the case.
Id suggest to anyone who is that hard up now and still has say the final 55% payment to make and you have such bad future prospects take the hit and lose the 45% you have already paid - why send good money after bad. If you & others truely believe the negatives then that is exactly what you should do. It may hurt like hell but it will be better than huirting along with the extra 55% with possibly zero chance of selling.
Remember for what you paid you could have bought a nice BMW 330d probably and a fiesta as well with the spare but you choose to buy here.
I bought as I like the place - its different, food is enjoyable, I wanted to try skiing and I was fed up with finding different holiday resorts year on year - now all I do is book the flights thats it. I play golf and may have the odd game while there, Ill certainly use the pools/tennis courts and have already enjoyed the summer there (Jazz & beer fest are really good fun).
As you say there is good & bad everywhere (try Bethnal Green most nights....)
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-21-08 18:45
welshy,so you reckon i should lose 30 grand¬! and not pay the other 20,,,,yeah good idea mate ,,thanks,you should be a mortgage adviser
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-21-08 18:46
welshy,so you reckon i should lose 30 grand¬! and not pay the other 20,,,,yeah good idea mate ,,thanks,you should be a mortgage adviser
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-21-08 19:01
Well being blunt if you seriously think there islittle chance o any growth in the area & selling might be excpetionally difficult - I ould say yes take the £30k hit,
Remember if you put in a further £20k (given you believe what you posted) then its money down the drain & interest alone on £20k a year will be an additional £1,300 ,
Put it in a different way say there was Civil war in a country where you had paid in £30k but needed a further £20k Im assuming all common sense would stop you from throwing the additional £20k away.
The market in Bansko (and I have bought 2) is oversupply & with the global credit crunch and forthcoming recession globally [which some economists predict could be as bad or worse than the 1920's crash - which took 35 years to recover (although WW2 did happen)]. The credit crunch will stop people buying more & more properties especially from the UK and Ireland - this is a worry for me and Id assume a worry to anyone who owns an asset there.
Oversupply of new properties means there is no resale market as such - I dont know of how the market economics works wih everything being built new and "no restriction" on supply - and the point being why buy used when you can buy new? (a question I didnt think about when I bought).
Finally Im guessing that you invested in a place you like to visit yourself and somewhere you will use say for 2 holidays a year summer & winter (if not that is a lot of eggs in one basket).
Last last point - how much research did you do before buying? How many other countries did you visit (to seriously consider buying) or was this the sole choice due to "low" purchase price?
If you cannot afford the £30k financing costs then dont put in any more as (Im assuming you are stretching to buy this place on top of your UK place) as it could worst case cause you to lose your UK residential place which would be terrible. Think hard & good luck.
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-21-08 20:13
welshy,thanks for reply,,,,but i dont think im gonna give greedy bulgarians 30,000 for jack shit,so i will pay the other 20,000,and get my apatrment.....the 6grand im not going to send them to ripp me off for a furniture package(ill do that myself) ill spend on getting a boob job and become a lap dancer,....make shit loads of money like my mate julie!!!! anyway dont worry i dont have kids to worry about and yeas i did my research on other countries...spain ,turkey,goa,greece...good luck to you 2 least ive only brought 1!
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-21-08 20:26
Im not intending to sell much before 10 years (circumstances depending) and then probably only 1. Or reassess and if they are self financing by then then keep them going.
I intend to use them once to twice a year.
When/if we have a family this will make overseas holidays far more affordable.
One word of caution about the furniture packages (one which I need to consider too for one of my places - still not yet decided) is that if you dont go with their own offerings and then use them or another for letting out you have issues i.e. different bed linen/towels, also if something gets broken then they cannot replace it as they dont know where you bought it so you will have to claim back through your insurance - which is a pain and time consuming + you will have to replace the item yourself or pay them to go out to buy it...
That is my concern - in addition to that they may favour rooms which have their own furniture to others when letting them out and unless you checked the occupancy of the hoteland other rooms you'd never know...
The £6k one Im going for includes full kitchen, dishwasher, washing machine TV's beds sofas and all the other small items. Now I know £6k sounds a lot but for you to take annual leave to go out there to do it yourself (and it may not turn up on time/on the correct days/be damaged upon delivery) may mean that you entire leave is used up on sorting out the logistics. Remember what Sarah Beany always says leave certain jobs to the pros as the opportunity cost of not doing so is higher & longer to you.
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-21-08 20:56
or you could book a cheap flight have a holliday at the same time and furnish yourself and still save 2 grand,its not hard to get furniture there or hire a van,what they charge is a rip off,6grand whats that with intrest.shop about ,dont get caught out....again
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Author : ian (---.as43234.net)
posts : 399
Date : 04-22-08 02:01
Kellie, I share your feelings on furniture packs, but also hear what Welshy is saying. A poster on another threaad on this site recommended "Furniture Box", i don't know them. When in Bansko a few weeks ago looking for furniture etc. we were quite impressed with Creative Interiors 75 Pirin St. junction of Glazne st.(creativeinteriors@effecta.net) and will prob use them. One piont though, they did warn us that the people we bought our property from would not list our appartment for bookings if we didn't buy their furniture pack, but we , like you, did not like the rip=off price selling agent wanted to charge, so will prob go with C.I. and do our own bookings.
Good luck.
As for totally doing it yourself, remember delivery time is about 6 weeks for kitchen units and they will just turn up with it. Although I am a property developer in UK i will use the Bansko firm to project manage fitting out kitchen etc.
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-22-08 10:34
thanks ian,good luck mate.think ill kkep my fingers crossed it will all work out in the end.....x
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-22-08 12:06
Ian
Thats exactly my concern - them not listing you and doing it all yourself will take a lot of time & hassle & I value my free time. Imagine customers turn up and your cleaner is off sick you have to rearrange it or if she quits etc what do you do? Its all issues that using the developer to manage it are fully absorbed.
Kelley - with regard to you popping over there to buy the items then another trip to await delivery of the white goods & kitchen units & weight issues of carrying tools for the fitting in you apt (or you buy them out there). And also what do you do if the delivery is delayed and you have booked your tickets at the cheapest price (and that usually means a 0% refund if you caairsncel).
Please take the advice as it is exceptionally difficult to manage even a small things over a long distance.
I have enough trouble managing my buy to lets in the UK all which are well within 1/2 a mile!!! Arranging taking time off work for deliveries, time off work for the Annual gas cert rolling repairs. To be honest its getting to the stage now that as I have so little free time its worth paying a letting agent in the UK the 12% to full manage it for you.
Again good luck in what you decide to do - and please stop the abusive name calling this is an advice site if you dont like what your hearing its worryig as you seem only prepared to accept a good news outlook and cannot contemplate the opposite.
Finally FYI I had just shy of 70% occupancy level 1st Dec - 31st Mar 08 and have this morning just received the rent from the agent associated with this period. Pleased with that + its boosted by the strong Euro to the £
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Author : ian (---.as43234.net)
posts : 399
Date : 04-22-08 14:03
Welshy, Good to swap pionts of view with you. I too have B-to-l in uk and all within 2 to 3 miles from home. infact this purchase broke my golden rule of "buy on the doorstep" for all the resons you mentioned.
While in Bansko the other week we met a management agent, an English couple, who for very resonable cost would look after cleaning and key change over, even at 3 am. I personaly asked that as i think WiZZ air have a lot to offer but land at SOF at 2355
Another poster on this bb recomended "Backup" (there are others), however my son (19) has just spent the season in Bansko and the management agent for the property they stayed in was useless, (no elec for 3 days because bill not paid, water cut off for same reason, swimming pool empty for entire time etc.) so it's a case of ask around i guess, and that's why i think a bb like this is useful.
We met a couple with 2 teenagers who owned in Bansko and enjoyed 70% occupancey this season, letting thru there developer BGhomes/ Balkan Holidays (I think), they had to rent an hotel for this visit as their flat was let (school Easter hols), so that's hopefull.
Our properties in St Ivan are not finished yet (should have been Dec07, but that's builders ) should now be about August (ish), so the jury is still out on the way to go.
As you have mentioned, we had thought of "binning " the cash already paid as opposed to chucking good money after bad, it is a bitter pill to swallow, but it has to be considered seriously given present economic conditions, lets face it, anyone renting in Bansko is going to face tough competition given the massive supply and downturn in economic conditions, already invetors are turning away from retail in fear of forthcoming personal cashflow squeeze. I must try and find a way to advertise in Greek!!
As a piont of interest, who is your developer/ letting agent?(if you choose not to say, i understand).
Good Luck to all, times could get difficult.
Ian
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Author : Mr Jeffrey (---.range81-153.btcentralplus.com)
posts : 17
Date : 04-23-08 22:03
All,
We have an apartment in Bansko and are more than happy. We are getting a good return in rentals through our developers. They control and pay for our place 6 months of the year.
We opted out of their furniture package as it was too expensive and cheap looking. However in hindsight I wish I had stayed with them.
Reasons being, if its their stuff they can maintain it and because its semi corporate they may even take more care of it. Laundry etc we got around by buying their stuff and then bringing home the laundry supplied by the package we ended up going with.
Another problem was our developer and our furniture people didnt get on together. This meant they used each other to blame for delays. Delays that cost me money.
The furniture package was from orpheus who I warn everybody to stay away from. They are dishonest and cannot be trusted. I have had to swallow my loss with them but have a learnt a few lessons.
Kellie, I have had many doubts along the way in this venture, but I can honestly say I am glad we invested, and one way or the other we will get from our flat all we wanted in the first place.
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Author : ian (---.as43234.net)
posts : 399
Date : 04-24-08 00:36
Thanks for the insight, it certainly keeps coming up that the developers don't want to work with outside furniture people, Creative Interiors warned of this and more or less said that if we were intending to rent through MRI we would be wasting everyone's time buying anything other than MRI's furniture pack.
Whether we can rent out the appartments independentley as successufully as the developers can, is the question.
I don't think i would go around buying the furniture, inc kitchen, independently, for many reasons like brakage replacement as well as delivery and instalation. However I am tempted to use an independent packager after visiting them, and save a couple of grand. That does however seem to mean that we will have to rent independentley useing a management firm like Bamro.
The insight to other peoples experience is greatfully received and i would be good to read that of others.
Cheers Ian
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomeds)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-24-08 23:27
Hi just like to comment on Bansko, we bought two years ago in a complex called mountain view, we looked at all the buiding going on everywhere, but that did not put us of. We bought a small studio of about 38 meters for our use but try and rent to. The furniture package is a rip of its a case of lots of greedy companys all trying to make loads of cash knowing its only a short time to make cash. But its a long time investment so dont worry kelley, when bansko is fully developed then the property will give you a good return, dont listen to welshy he is just full of gloom and doom, enjoy what you have got and sell in 10 years tim. Good luck to you!
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-25-08 12:59
Steve Im talking reality.
Not every investment turns out good - some turn out to be worthless some hardly show any growth above inflation and some make a fortune.
To invest while only seeing it from a 1 way angle is naive - maybe thats due to the property boom in the UK over the last 10 years when nothing has dropped.
I always say never put your eggs into one basket - but was concerned to hear the Kelleyhad used all of her savings and re mortgaged to get this place, to me that sounds like most of the eggs. If it works out well then we will all reap the rewards - but conversly what do we do if it doesnt?
I do have my eggs put over many baskets so in reality if it does go belly up it wont bankrupt me - for sure like anyone else I'd be angry but then just move on.
With any investment it has to make money else why invest - if its a home thats a different issue but even then noone want to p*ss money down the drain as in that case it could be cheaper to rent when ever you fancy going.
Clearly I have a vested interest for things to go well - but am keeping my sensible hat on.
We all see those holiday home nightmare shows on TV - being naive has cost those poor people big time some their life savings.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-25-08 17:19
Yes you are right in one way welshy i have two places in Sofia, maybe now looking it was probably a wrong idea to in Bansko, but i will keep long term and i didn't need any finance.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-25-08 17:20
Yes you are right in one way welshy i have two places in Sofia, maybe now looking it was probably a wrong idea to in Bansko, but i will keep long term and i didn't need any finance.
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Author : Welshy (167.83.9.---)
posts : 117
Date : 04-25-08 18:27
The worry I have for people & myself included is what happens if the prices fall? That would be dire news for all investors and its also likely in the short term with the credit crunch.
Remember if the price of ave UK houses fall then the relative difference between the UK & Bulgaria decreases so therefore less demand from one market which as per basic economics lower demand = lower prices especially when there seems to be not that much restriction on supply.
Im in it for the long run unless our circumstances change where I may be forced to sell at a loss or put it into a UK auction and see if there is any bids.
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Author : ian (---.as43234.net)
posts : 399
Date : 04-25-08 19:42
Another path could be to try and find a partner to buy half of the investment from you, thus reducing the financial exposure.
A concern of mine, over the long term, is that Bansko could end up a town littered with derelict bankrupt building sites. The cause of this could happen in the next year or so, but once the rot sets in, the hangover could last more than 10 years. This would of course put a cap on further development, but would also adversly affect the attraction of the resort to tourists reducing repeat visits, and therefore the value of investment.
Also if appartment blocks have an amount of reposessed appartments, then the management charge of the block will be higher per owner.
Clearly I hope I am wrong as I am an investor in the town.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-25-08 21:59
But you are looking at the uk market slowing down, there are countries like Russia buying. I think you think only the british and irish are buying. Yes there is a slowdown but they can only build so much in Bansko, they are now building in Razlog, and probably beyond Razlog in the future, but my personal thoughts are long term, the bulgarian goverment not only want people to buy apartments, they also want a strong tourist trade so belive me they will spend on the area.
Just a thought am thinking of driving to Bansko, and Sofia to furnish my apartments if at least another two people thinking the same we can split three ways and lets take our own furniture to bulgaria, because those packages are to expensive.
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-26-08 00:33
I bought in Spain 6 years ago, the market has slowed down and the builders are including a lot more in their sales to attract buyers. They have also put some developement on hold until things start to move again. As for things happening with investment be prepared to wait a long time, in my experience most things that are said to be happening will happenen but it could take a further 15 year. We bought to retire there and dont rely on any income, there are loads of apparments for sale but many people have now started long term renting, as sales are slow.
Furniture packages everywhere are a rip off, we bought ourself from different shops. Kellie dont think you can get every thing in two weeks it wont happen, we had been looking for a good few months on trips out and enquired about delivery, some items were 10 weeks, but most would store them and arrange delivery over the phone from the UK for the next time we were out.
As for management, becareful I know people in Spain who have been told by their management agents that their place isnt renting out. In reality they had rented it out and were pocketing all the money. Also we rented a place in Bansko 3 years ago we paid half before we went and were told the other half would be collected, after trailing around and a few phone calls our depature date came, still noone had took the money, on return to the uk I sent an email to company and called about the rest of the payment, they never took it, the only thing I can think is the management company got their half but the poor sod who owned the appartment didnt get theirs.
Good luck but hold onto it for a long time it will start to look better and the things that were promised by the sellers will slowly start happening. Just dont expect it to be anytime soon.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-26-08 01:10
Hi Sam we sold in Spain two years ago, after buying our two bed apartment 10 years previous. We bought in Torrevieja, in Alicante region probably were you bought. I sold at the right time for a very good profit, and yes in one way the spanish have started to learn the lesson, 3 years ago they didn't have to work hard to sell there properties now they have to work very hard, the weak pound isn't helping to.
But i was lucky to sell two years ago, since then the same property as dropped in value by 30%, am going to give it another year and i will be back to invest again, because i do love the country even learned the language.
Mi gusta mucho espana, hasta luego
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-26-08 20:55
Steve
sounds like you bought at the right time as well, had already gone up by quiet a lot when we bought in comparison to a couple of years earlier. yes we are in that area and we love it, they have started to get the 332 ready for dualing although if they cut the tolls on the motorway they wouldn't need to be thats the spainish for you. The area where we are was a building site but looking good now and all the things that we were told about when we bought are slowly coming to fruition.
if you ever fancy swoping a week in the sun for a week in the snow give us a shout,
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Author : kellie (---.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 30
Date : 04-26-08 21:04
steve
thankyou for your comment. i had bad pmt last week!!! i said a few things that maybe i shouldnt have!! things dont ever go to plan, but i sad that bansko was poo and so where the people....IM SORRY. out of order ,was having a realy or should say have been having a hard time recentley .thats it,if and bulgarins are there sorry to offended you,i had been to and still go to bulgaria,i didnt just buy it as an investment(but i dont want to lose either) i have a house(cheap) near stara zagora which ive been renovating so i do know how much workers cost and furniture etc......thats it for now.chow chow
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 00:04
Sam that sounds good, our apartment in Bansko is ready end of this May, so yes keep in touch it would be nice to exchange. Where abouts in Spain Sam, it sounds like you are in el galan, or villa martain, we used to have a apartment in Los Balcones, near the new hospital.
Kelie you never offended me, dont worry, we are all in the same boat in Bansko, and we all have our own opinon and my thoughts are we need to keep hold of these properties because when all the building as stopped then the properties will rise you see. Pmt brings out the best in a woman i like a woman whos not frightened to express there feelings mmmm!
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 00:42
Los Altos not that far from Los Balcones, do you know where via park 3 is and the cosum supermarket? we are just near there.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 01:12
Yes i no it very well, you are in a nice place Sam, i no alot of people who live around there. Our place was in Lago Jardin 1, it is a very nice urbanisation with a little church. Do you rent yours out?
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 12:52
no not really a couple of friend have used it and some family, but after the expence of furnishing and the hassel other people have had we chose not to go down the rental road. Plus
We like it there are some nice beaches around there and plenty of shops, resturants and bars. have seen that urbanisation is really nice.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 13:33
Where do you live in the uk Sam?
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 16:09
Lincoln
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 16:16
Lincoln
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 16:23
Hi live in London, i have only lived here for one year i used to live in Tuxford, near the lincolnshire border but am afraid in nottinghamshire, i anm still a die hard forest fan
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 16:39
Forrest fan they used to be a good team, when to see them a couple of years ago when they played Lincoln in a friendly at the begining of the seasons. Where abouts in London we have family who live near heathrow.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 16:50
I live in Pimlico which is in westminster, 2 mins walk to victoria station
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 17:06
Not that far from the houses of parliment then, nice area of London, did you move there for work?
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-27-08 20:59
Yes i came for work last year, it took a few months to get used to it, but i love it here now you are right only 10 minutes walk house of parliment, and 20 minute walk Buckingham Palace, when i get time i walk everywhere.
But i do miss the north, my football team forest, i have sen them play the London teams that is all this season.
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-27-08 23:02
I like going to London for a few days but don't think I could move there. Although I do like sitting in convert gardens and just people watching, can spend all day there.
The North has some plus points, I do think the area around lincoln is really nice, not as keen on nottingham worked there for around 9 months and hated it, was glad to move on.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-28-08 00:05
Tell me Sam, have ou got a place in Bansko, or Bulgaria
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Author : sam (---.nott.cable.ntl.com)
posts : 3668
Date : 04-28-08 00:16
No, did look in to it but choose not to,
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Author : Alex (---.bb.sky.com)
posts : 136
Date : 04-28-08 22:40
Hi All
I guarantee you will not be ripped off for furniture if you use Furniture Box in Bansko. The people running it are a great bunch of guys and know what is happening with the other companies - believe me, they have helped me out of a fix as I bought through Orpheus and had a few problems to say the least. Their furniture is lovely, very reasonable and accessories good quality.
Let's try to look on the "glass half full" side instead of "half empty". Luckily we can afford to just keep our property and see what happens - hopefully, eventually we will get our money back if they do what they say and expand the runs and build the second lift.
I'm sure the Kempinski chain can't afford to have everything go "belly up" and neither can the people of Bankso/Bulgaria.
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Author : steve (---.pool1.unallocated-106-0.orangehomedsl)
posts : 1931
Date : 04-29-08 00:56
Hi Alex, do you no there phone number or web site for this furniture box in Bansko. I like your saying about the glass half full or half emy. But i would like a full glass 
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Author : alex (---.plus.com)
posts : 136
Date : 04-30-08 18:55
Hi Steve
So would we like a full glass - let's keep hoping eh?
www.furniturebox.com Michael Donnelly and Eddie Raphael run it. The Management Company is Backup if you are interested - martin.netov@backup-hg.com 
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