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Tipping
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posts : 13 (Beginner)Date : 03-17-05 12:04re: Tipping
Calm down Franz, perhaps your taking it a little to personally now
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Would you lot get a life.If you feel you want to tip then tip if you don't then don't but just remember at the end of the day its up to us to do what we feel is correct.
Neil if you don't want to tip you should have to and nobody should call you tight because you stand by your princeables
Everybody else if you want to tip and I must say I do then just do it.
re: correction to my last post
Neil I ment shouldn't not shouldre: Tipping
As a final comment I would say that if you are in a country where it is customary to tip then you should do so whether you agree of not. At the end of the day we are guests in their country and should respect their rules. If you don't like it then don't go to that country.re: Tipping
Ooh handbags at dawn this morning people! Calm down
Neil your theory that if no one was to tip then the service industry i.e bar owners would have to pay staff more is shall we say a bit of fantasy. 1 I doubt very much that they could afford to pay much more and 2 even if they could that would have a knock on effect of them having to employ LESS staff because they could not afford to pay the wages. I seriously doubt that most of the bar owners are rolling in it.
The service industry ...
Neil your theory that if no one was to tip then the service industry i.e bar owners would have to pay staff more is shall we say a bit of fantasy. 1 I doubt very much that they could afford to pay much more and 2 even if they could that would have a knock on effect of them having to employ LESS staff because they could not afford to pay the wages. I seriously doubt that most of the bar owners are rolling in it.
The service industry ...
Ooh handbags at dawn this morning people! Calm down
Neil your theory that if no one was to tip then the service industry i.e bar owners would have to pay staff more is shall we say a bit of fantasy. 1 I doubt very much that they could afford to pay much more and 2 even if they could that would have a knock on effect of them having to employ LESS staff because they could not afford to pay the wages. I seriously doubt that most of the bar owners are rolling in it.
The service industry worldwide has always been low paid and people do rely on tips. As I said before I tip anywhere in the world if I get good service full stop. It is a way of showing your appreciation. I am a self employed taxi driver and I myself never expect a tip from anyone but it is always appreciated if I give them good service (which I do!)
So I understand your argument but think you are wrong.
On a footnote people I do not think we need to start name calling and throwing our toys out of the pram because some people have a different point of view!
Neil your theory that if no one was to tip then the service industry i.e bar owners would have to pay staff more is shall we say a bit of fantasy. 1 I doubt very much that they could afford to pay much more and 2 even if they could that would have a knock on effect of them having to employ LESS staff because they could not afford to pay the wages. I seriously doubt that most of the bar owners are rolling in it.
The service industry worldwide has always been low paid and people do rely on tips. As I said before I tip anywhere in the world if I get good service full stop. It is a way of showing your appreciation. I am a self employed taxi driver and I myself never expect a tip from anyone but it is always appreciated if I give them good service (which I do!)
So I understand your argument but think you are wrong.
On a footnote people I do not think we need to start name calling and throwing our toys out of the pram because some people have a different point of view!
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agree with faser and sarah to a large degree, but only in that you should reward good service. tipping bad service just because it is customary to do so will surely only serve to encourage bad service. (on saying that, I expereinced very little bad service in bulgaira).
also, I think we must remember that the amount someone gets paid to do a job is only relative to the cost of living. bulgairan workers may at first glance look like they are paid very little, but is this true when you ...
also, I think we must remember that the amount someone gets paid to do a job is only relative to the cost of living. bulgairan workers may at first glance look like they are paid very little, but is this true when you ...
agree with faser and sarah to a large degree, but only in that you should reward good service. tipping bad service just because it is customary to do so will surely only serve to encourage bad service. (on saying that, I expereinced very little bad service in bulgaira).
also, I think we must remember that the amount someone gets paid to do a job is only relative to the cost of living. bulgairan workers may at first glance look like they are paid very little, but is this true when you factor in the expsesne of every dya living. british workers are only paid more becuase prices are so much higher here.
I cannot profess to be an expert on the history of the bulgairan economy, but as a former communist country i would imagine that they did not expereince 'super' inlfation like the uk did during the late 1970's and 1980's?
boyo
also, I think we must remember that the amount someone gets paid to do a job is only relative to the cost of living. bulgairan workers may at first glance look like they are paid very little, but is this true when you factor in the expsesne of every dya living. british workers are only paid more becuase prices are so much higher here.
I cannot profess to be an expert on the history of the bulgairan economy, but as a former communist country i would imagine that they did not expereince 'super' inlfation like the uk did during the late 1970's and 1980's?
boyo
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Sorry but neil youre a prat
Then again every box has one...........i didnt for a minute say that no can express their own views i would just like to see some slightly better informed views than those being aired.
If you go to USA and dont tip, never mind the service, you dont exactly get treated like royalty, but its expected there so thats ok then, in BG where for a lot of the workers the ski season is the time that they have to earn to cover the rest of the year,its obviously differant ...
Then again every box has one...........i didnt for a minute say that no can express their own views i would just like to see some slightly better informed views than those being aired.
If you go to USA and dont tip, never mind the service, you dont exactly get treated like royalty, but its expected there so thats ok then, in BG where for a lot of the workers the ski season is the time that they have to earn to cover the rest of the year,its obviously differant ...
Sorry but neil youre a prat
Then again every box has one...........i didnt for a minute say that no can express their own views i would just like to see some slightly better informed views than those being aired.
If you go to USA and dont tip, never mind the service, you dont exactly get treated like royalty, but its expected there so thats ok then, in BG where for a lot of the workers the ski season is the time that they have to earn to cover the rest of the year,its obviously differant, i suppose thats because its so cheap to live and why should we expect to give them half a chance to improve the economy, sorry but some of your comments seriously smack of white imperialism, the same arguments ruled then.
Its simple tip or dont tip, go skiing in Bg or dont, but as for that rubbish about keeping it cheap so that you can afford to go skiing there......................im really lost for words
Then again every box has one...........i didnt for a minute say that no can express their own views i would just like to see some slightly better informed views than those being aired.
If you go to USA and dont tip, never mind the service, you dont exactly get treated like royalty, but its expected there so thats ok then, in BG where for a lot of the workers the ski season is the time that they have to earn to cover the rest of the year,its obviously differant, i suppose thats because its so cheap to live and why should we expect to give them half a chance to improve the economy, sorry but some of your comments seriously smack of white imperialism, the same arguments ruled then.
Its simple tip or dont tip, go skiing in Bg or dont, but as for that rubbish about keeping it cheap so that you can afford to go skiing there......................im really lost for words
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Fraser and Sarah,Just a question for you both , do you think you will continue to go to BG when their economy has improved and all the workers are paid euro level rates, and its then as expensive as france ? or do you think you will find somewhere less developed and , dare i say it , cheap , to ski.
Kel
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Seeing as how we are well versed in the country, and have bought both property and land over there, i guess we will be staying, especially as i have been fortunate enough to have skied all over europe and the states, and this is where i plumped for.
Im not an expert on BG but so much drivel is written on here about the country that it occasionally sparks me off on one, the other favourite is ....'im so good now that i dont find the resort challenging enough..' what that actually means is ...
Im not an expert on BG but so much drivel is written on here about the country that it occasionally sparks me off on one, the other favourite is ....'im so good now that i dont find the resort challenging enough..' what that actually means is ...
Seeing as how we are well versed in the country, and have bought both property and land over there, i guess we will be staying, especially as i have been fortunate enough to have skied all over europe and the states, and this is where i plumped for.
Im not an expert on BG but so much drivel is written on here about the country that it occasionally sparks me off on one, the other favourite is ....'im so good now that i dont find the resort challenging enough..' what that actually means is they havent actually done anything about finding out where you can ski that is challenging...............certainly does it for me
Im not an expert on BG but so much drivel is written on here about the country that it occasionally sparks me off on one, the other favourite is ....'im so good now that i dont find the resort challenging enough..' what that actually means is they havent actually done anything about finding out where you can ski that is challenging...............certainly does it for me
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Fair comment on the challenging ski bit , no argument there , but it seems to me that some people that accuse other peoples coments of "smacking of white imperialism" only ski BG as its cheap , and they all want is for the conditions of employment of the bar staff etc to improve and for these people to get higher standards , and , i guess its only a matter of time before it does happen as BG is due to join the EU, but my question is how many of these "lets help the people types" will desert ...
Fair comment on the challenging ski bit , no argument there , but it seems to me that some people that accuse other peoples coments of "smacking of white imperialism" only ski BG as its cheap , and they all want is for the conditions of employment of the bar staff etc to improve and for these people to get higher standards , and , i guess its only a matter of time before it does happen as BG is due to join the EU, but my question is how many of these "lets help the people types" will desert BG after they have achived EU standards and are all earning EU rates and holidays in BG are as expensive as france.No doubt you will be happy being a property owner."white imperialism" look in the mirror
Kel
Kel
