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So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

Adam Author:Adam posts : 351   (Expert)Date : 02-18-14 04:56

So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

From our own weather this year, you can see things are not right, its just one of them things, surely you can bet your money on things being back to normal next season? or has it put many of you off betting your hard earned money on Bulgaria skiing in the future?

I imagine Borovets will loose alot of custom after the poor snow, and lack of equipment to deal with it?

Pamporovo will do best in attracting people when it can keep the majority of its slopes open with highs of 15 degrees?
brynwin Author:brynwin posts : 106   (Intermediate)Date : 02-18-14 08:01

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

No hasn't put us off, been going to pamporovo for the last 10 years so was skiing there before the cannons that are now serving the resort so well. Have skied on rocks, grass etc you name it. Have to agree with other posters on here and have also posted this myself but pamporovo slope management has been really spot on this year we were there at the beginning of Jan and look forward to next year Razz Razz
Pamporovo Villager (Ex Forest Nooky) Author:Pamporovo Villager (Ex Forest Nooky) posts : 191   (Intermediate)Date : 02-18-14 10:14

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

Everywhere does get bad years and hopefully this won't put too many off. It's unfortunate though that Pamporovo is lumped in here given that most runs have been open all year.
nightmuffy Author:nightmuffy posts : 1359   (Master)Date : 02-18-14 14:47

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

Pamporovo have done a fantastic job keeping the slopes open. But also you have to say that Bansko after the fall in january have had most of their slopes open too. There is only Red12 closed, Chalin valog black and the little ski road not the main one down to mid station. Every other run is still open and skiing very well. I do feel for Borovets as they were just starting to get visitors back but unfortunately you still have to update the resort incase of things like this season with lack ...
Pamporovo have done a fantastic job keeping the slopes open. But also you have to say that Bansko after the fall in january have had most of their slopes open too. There is only Red12 closed, Chalin valog black and the little ski road not the main one down to mid station. Every other run is still open and skiing very well. I do feel for Borovets as they were just starting to get visitors back but unfortunately you still have to update the resort incase of things like this season with lack of snow.

All in all it is not just BG that has suffered alot of French resosrt and Alp resorts have had a very bad year also. Some not even opening at all. We still have a third of the season to go at least so lets hope mother nature turns around and brings some very much needed dumps of snow for a great end to the season.

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don Author:don posts : 475   (Expert)Date : 02-18-14 15:21

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Yes a strange season for snow and weather generally in Europe, and in answer to the question yes I believe everywhere gets them. As Nightmuffy says even some of the French resorts have struggled, where others have done well, take a look at the southern alps plus Italy, generally much better than elsewhere, I was in Serre Chevalier 3 weeks ago and conditions were great, also went over to the milky way, again excellent.
The lack of snow affected some of the higher resorts as they generally ...
Yes a strange season for snow and weather generally in Europe, and in answer to the question yes I believe everywhere gets them. As Nightmuffy says even some of the French resorts have struggled, where others have done well, take a look at the southern alps plus Italy, generally much better than elsewhere, I was in Serre Chevalier 3 weeks ago and conditions were great, also went over to the milky way, again excellent.
The lack of snow affected some of the higher resorts as they generally don't have guns up at height, and the terrain often needs much more snow cover to be skiable.
BG has often suffered due to the relatively southern orientation being affected by the mild weather coming in, but when the weather is cold snow conditions can be very good, this is never going to be perfect but I think that Bansko and Pamps have managed the situation as well as can be expected under the circumstances.
It is safe to say that there are places you can go that can pretty much guarantee snow, but generally you will pay a premium for accommodation and lift passes, and in many cases on mountain prices can be very high.
Yes BG can be a gamble, but so can anywhere, but for most people the price advantage will sway the decision in BGs favour, after all is said and done if the snows bad in BG when you are out there it wont break the bank to drown your sorrows!!.

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Beagleboy Author:Beagleboy posts : 28   (Beginner)Date : 02-18-14 17:13

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

We were in Bansko two weeks ago and made the most of the available conditions. That meant hitting the sack early so we could get the first Gondola's up onto the mountain and hit the slopes while they were still cold and quiet. We had a superb time and are already in the planning stages for our fifth trip back to Bansko next year. It's a holiday, make of it what you can!

Cool
Steve C Author:Steve C posts : 2898   (Master)Date : 02-18-14 20:05

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

Having checked earlier in the season the state of all resorts Europe wide, it stated in late January of the 805 resorts in Europe over 200 were still closed, and nearly 60% of the remaining reported less than 100% of their runs open.... It has been a poor season generally, the snow that has fallen has been very localised, some resorts reporting great snow... Obviously the higher resorts have a better chance due to their altitude and general lower temps...
It has to be said that in Bulgaria ...
Having checked earlier in the season the state of all resorts Europe wide, it stated in late January of the 805 resorts in Europe over 200 were still closed, and nearly 60% of the remaining reported less than 100% of their runs open.... It has been a poor season generally, the snow that has fallen has been very localised, some resorts reporting great snow... Obviously the higher resorts have a better chance due to their altitude and general lower temps...
It has to be said that in Bulgaria we are going to suffer more than most, none of the resorts here are above 2500m, and are further south than virtually any other resorts (Bansko is on the same latitude as Rome) so the investment in snow cannons is an obvious choice, and this season is testament to this. It also shows that effort if made can effect the situation, Pamps has shown this, and to a certain extent Bansko. Bansko could have started making snow earlier, but i suppose this seasons weather was not predicted.. We all know what the snow can be like here, and hopefully it is just a blip... i know its no consolation but i was in Val'd'isere in the 80's and can remember a couple of seasons when the 'premier neige' was cancelled due to lack of snow, rain on Christmas day at resort level (2000m +) and no snow for 2 months... it happens anywhere...

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colin Author:colin posts : 280   (Expert)Date : 02-18-14 20:48

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it is only Feb and you all sound like writing off the season and shifting to a year from now.
that is 12 months from now and if you do that and delete season here and there there wont be much left to remember when you reach end of ski time in senior time.
It is perfect all over Europe and let me correct you there Steve the resorts in the Alps have been opened normally and without hick ups to mention and NOW are doing just find benefiting for sure from the misfortunes of Bulgaria.
There is ...
it is only Feb and you all sound like writing off the season and shifting to a year from now.
that is 12 months from now and if you do that and delete season here and there there wont be much left to remember when you reach end of ski time in senior time.
It is perfect all over Europe and let me correct you there Steve the resorts in the Alps have been opened normally and without hick ups to mention and NOW are doing just find benefiting for sure from the misfortunes of Bulgaria.
There is no room to maneuver so the vacuum space has been filled straight away and other resorts with forward thinking have benefiting in the current climate and ARE MAKING SURE KEEPING their clients with good service,good pistes,good programme for young and old,smiles, good prices,etc etc.
It is easy to find excuses and to blame the boogie.
You all sound like schoolers.
Cmon, face the reality aknowledge the facts .
It is democracy I think you are not forced to visit particular place at any cost.
Take your hard earned money and spend it where the snow is good at the moment.
If next year BG has the more of it , say Hello Bulgaria !
I think it is simple action.
Mind you it is difficult one for most of the regular posters on here which are glued to stay and have not got chance to go elsewhere.
I understand where you are coming from.
Cheer up I say!
Lets celebrate the snow wherever it is!
PS just looked at one TV advert on Bulgarian television.
3 skiers call each other and saying : I heard it is one meter of snow on top.
They all jump from beds take the lift go to the top step out of the chairlift and look in front of them one m2 of snow next to the lift and their faces show dull looks.

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Steve C Author:Steve C posts : 2898   (Master)Date : 02-18-14 22:51

re:So, A Bad Year, Doesnt everywhere get them?

Let me correct you Colin, it stated on the 18th January with a survey run by the ski club of Great Britain on the recognised resorts within Europe that over 200 still remained closed, and that of the remaining nearly 60% reported not having all runs open. The situation in central Europe generally has greatly improved allowing for some good skiing to be found. I do not just make a statement for the hell of it... I'm assuming you are Bulgarian, your negativity is reminiscent of Brits ...
Let me correct you Colin, it stated on the 18th January with a survey run by the ski club of Great Britain on the recognised resorts within Europe that over 200 still remained closed, and that of the remaining nearly 60% reported not having all runs open. The situation in central Europe generally has greatly improved allowing for some good skiing to be found. I do not just make a statement for the hell of it... I'm assuming you are Bulgarian, your negativity is reminiscent of Brits complaining about the UK... do you know Mikey ?
I still accept and agree with your comments about Bulgarian skiing, there definitely needs to be a shake up, it may happen, it may not, time will tell... but it is a fact that this season so far has not been a classic season anywhere, yes, it's not over, and who knows ? a massive fall of snow in Bulgaria could have those 1m seekers smiling all over their faces... i haven't written this season off just yet... Wink

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Hilly Author:Hilly posts : 462   (Expert)Date : 02-18-14 23:33

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Mmm, what ever did happen to Mickey???? Wink Wink

Funny how some things start to sound very familiar!