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Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

Pamporovo Pete Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-30-09 13:39

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

Maybe the greed is ours.

We want better and more lifts, more snow cannons, more slopes, better hotels, and better food,

All of which has been forthcoming and is still increasing and yet we don't want the prices to go up!

Do the sums Confused

Cool
Gogs Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-30-09 14:13

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

PP, I've got to disagree with you on that post, the way business works is that the companies make the investment in the infrastructure etc and when the customers see that there is a good product, they come and spend their hard end cash. I don't think that's greed its just they way the world works.
monty Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-31-09 10:43

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I dont think they can expect you to pay for the infastructure before its in place. Normal practice is this kind of investment is paid back over a period of time once the facilities are in place and proven to work. I think theres a few people on this site that do more harm than the Mikeys of this world with the rose tinted spectacles.
The Donkeywalloper Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-31-09 15:49

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Its nice too see some form of reasoned debate, without posts being deleted, posters attacked by the flock for having a different opinion.
Pamporovo Villager (Used to be Forest Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-31-09 18:58

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

To be fair DW, Mickey was insulting a poster which is beyond adult debate. His post needed deleting IMHO.
george Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-01-09 19:03

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

Not anymore reasonably priced destination in my opinion.service not good and the lift structure lacking plus other traditional destinations blessed for 2 years with perfect condition and getting flexible And reasonable ot the pricing
lindate Author:Lindate posts : 11   (Beginner)Date : 04-02-09 15:26

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

Didn't go to Bansko this year, (mainly because I seem to have a part share in a building site that has had no further work done for a year and it upsets me). However was these last season and I don't think the people will have altered that much.

If you are going to drink in the hotels you will pay hotel prices, its as simple as that, go to the Mehanas and where the locals go and you will pay considerably less, common sense I would have thought.

OK sometimes greed does come into it, I ...
Didn't go to Bansko this year, (mainly because I seem to have a part share in a building site that has had no further work done for a year and it upsets me). However was these last season and I don't think the people will have altered that much.

If you are going to drink in the hotels you will pay hotel prices, its as simple as that, go to the Mehanas and where the locals go and you will pay considerably less, common sense I would have thought.

OK sometimes greed does come into it, I appreciate that but, as someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, just walk away, take the custom elsewhere.

Personally I'm digging in for the long haul, I love Bulgaria and think, given time it will improve. If thats looking through rose coloured spectacles then so be it.

Good that we can have different opinions.

Regards

Linda

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Mark IOW Author:Mark IOW posts : 547   (Expert)Date : 04-03-09 03:12

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

As an annual visitor to Borovets, this season the prices were 50 to 60% higher than the year before (in resort) however, 20 mins down the road to Samokov and the prices were around 5% higher than last season. These figures were agreed also by 3 personal Bulgarian friends, so it’s not just me plucking figures out of the air.

One of my friends, who happen to work in finance, clearly stated that the owners of businesses in resort used the entry into the Euro as an excuse to hike the prices. ...
As an annual visitor to Borovets, this season the prices were 50 to 60% higher than the year before (in resort) however, 20 mins down the road to Samokov and the prices were around 5% higher than last season. These figures were agreed also by 3 personal Bulgarian friends, so it’s not just me plucking figures out of the air.

One of my friends, who happen to work in finance, clearly stated that the owners of businesses in resort used the entry into the Euro as an excuse to hike the prices. He also stated that their rent only went up by 6-8% and food and transport costs have gone up by 3-4%

So looking at the stats, it’s quite obvious that owners of bars and restaurants are trying to make as much money as they can out of the "wealthy" western Europeans but not grasping that fact that it is going to damage their businesses in the long run.

A taxi last year to our hotel cost £2. This year it was £5, the difference being the taxi meter was NEVER on show this season. The meters are set by the authorities and was told they would have read about £2.50.Hmmmm !!

The only refreshing thing was our ski hire. For four of us, it was £15 more expensive than last season. When in discussion, the owners said that this was because they replaced their skis with new ones and did not agree with everyone else putting up their prices.

I have formed an opinion of what is going on !!!

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Dave Author:davekl posts : 172   (Intermediate)Date : 04-03-09 12:10

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

maybe borovets is more expensive, but i have noticed no price rises in bansko, I do not go in the expensive hotels and tourist bars, but i do not think things have gone up, you can still get a beer for 1 leva ?
The Donkeywalloper Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 04-03-09 18:35

re: Greed is the reason why Bulgaria is changing so much !! Discuss

Author : dave (85.95.69.---)
posts : 1155
Date : 04-03-09 12:10

maybe borovets is more expensive, but i have noticed no price rises in bansko, I do not go in the expensive hotels and tourist bars, but i do not think things have gone up, you can still get a beer for 1 leva ?

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Even the most hardened lover of Bulgaria and bansko wouldnt agree with this.

Prices have not gone up in Bansko. LOL.
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Author : dave (85.95.69.---)
posts : 1155
Date : 04-03-09 12:10

maybe borovets is more expensive, but i have noticed no price rises in bansko, I do not go in the expensive hotels and tourist bars, but i do not think things have gone up, you can still get a beer for 1 leva ?

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Even the most hardened lover of Bulgaria and bansko wouldnt agree with this.

Prices have not gone up in Bansko. LOL.
Very Happy


I admire youre dedication to the cause dave, but to come out with comments that are claearly untrue is doing yourself or your arguement no favours. I think this has been the first post i have seen on this and other forums stating that the prices havent gone up.

Do you have an apartment in bansko by any chance ?

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