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PAMPS NEVER AGAIN

josh Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-07-08 22:44

PAMPS NEVER AGAIN

just back from pamps what a dump, people rude, slopes are dangerous, no snow, watch your change as they will all try and rip you off never again
back to norway next year what a place.
lucretius Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-07-08 23:32

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where in Norway, I'm looking for somewhere new?
Debs Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-07-08 23:40

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Us too..... What are the prices like, beer and food?
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Dimitar Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 14:09

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Josh, what do you expect from your trip in Pamps?
It's normal that most of the people want to rip you off, because the salsries in Bulgaria are too low, around £100 per month (not per week Crying ).
So, why do you think everyone in Pamps should be happy and should work for nothing?
Snow Plough Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 14:34

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hi josh,

looks like you've had a bad week. Sad

looking at your posts 43 you will have been reading other posters warning comments. Pamps can be a bit snowless this time of year but on the other hand heavy dumps can also come Razz Pamps is also a bit limited if you are an experienced skier but some people love they place and go back year after year. (namely P.P.)

Rip offs, well it doesn't happen to me any problems I fix them once then give them the right money and no tips they soon ...
hi josh,

looks like you've had a bad week. Sad

looking at your posts 43 you will have been reading other posters warning comments. Pamps can be a bit snowless this time of year but on the other hand heavy dumps can also come Razz Pamps is also a bit limited if you are an experienced skier but some people love they place and go back year after year. (namely P.P.)

Rip offs, well it doesn't happen to me any problems I fix them once then give them the right money and no tips they soon learn. If I get good service they get a good tip and a smile Very Happy

Dimitar.
Not a very good comment to promote the Bulgarians, yes they are poor, yes they get low wages, yes most of the money goes to the big men in leather coats and dark glasses. What they earn is their normal wage, don't expect just because they are joining the E.E.C. that they are entitled to rip off the British (I'm Welsh) they do not try it on with Europians. Yes I have the greatest sympathy for them as they are a warm welcoming nation I have been going to Borovets, Bansko and Pamps for the past 10yrs and no problems.

A great place roll on next year.

CANT WAIT.
cheers josh & Dimitar
s.p.

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Mat Author:Mat posts : 1182   (Master)Date : 03-08-08 15:40

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That's the attitude Dimitar....
Bulgarian Ski Instructor Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 16:33

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How can the British people expect to be shown respect and to be treated properly when they behave like animals in our country.

They try to cheat the reception staff by noit paying for mini bar bills, damaging and wrecking rooms and then not wanting to pay for them. Get into fights and when they get arrested blame everybody else.

Run away from bars without paying the drinks bill. Complain when nothing is English and no English tv in Bulgaria, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

When i was in England ...
How can the British people expect to be shown respect and to be treated properly when they behave like animals in our country.

They try to cheat the reception staff by noit paying for mini bar bills, damaging and wrecking rooms and then not wanting to pay for them. Get into fights and when they get arrested blame everybody else.

Run away from bars without paying the drinks bill. Complain when nothing is English and no English tv in Bulgaria, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

When i was in England they were the most miserable unhelpful people i came across.

If Bulgaria is so bad stay in England.

I have been a ski instructor for 15 years, hold a BASI grade 1 Licence and a member of ISIA. Unfortunately Bulgaria attracts only the trash of the UK!!

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Danny Boy Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 16:40

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Dear 'Bulgarian Ski Instructor',
Exceptionally constructive commentary. 'Bulgaria only attracts the trash of the UK' I am sure PP and those nice people involved assisting the orphanage take kindly to this, Your comments are demonstarative of the kind of attitude that fosters bad feelings between tourists and locals. BTW what does your ski licence have todo with the issues raised?
Dan
11 GCSE's and 3 Alevels
Robo Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 16:47

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Well said Dan...
5 o levels cant remember what the others were as it was too long ago...
mrteetotal Author: posts : 13   (Beginner)Date : 03-08-08 17:15

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Valid points on both sides I think.
But please remember that not all Bulgarians are out to rip you off and that not all Brits are miserable, cheating and violent.

Bulgaria is evolving as a new EU member. Remember that ski resorts in Bulgaria 15 years ago were very popular with German tourists but not anymore. They didn't like the bad service and poor facilities so went elsewhere. This time round on the cycle the facilities have improved a bit but we can add higher prices to the mix. This ...
Valid points on both sides I think.
But please remember that not all Bulgarians are out to rip you off and that not all Brits are miserable, cheating and violent.

Bulgaria is evolving as a new EU member. Remember that ski resorts in Bulgaria 15 years ago were very popular with German tourists but not anymore. They didn't like the bad service and poor facilities so went elsewhere. This time round on the cycle the facilities have improved a bit but we can add higher prices to the mix. This makes it less attractive in the longer term and the Brits will stop coming over.
There have been a lot of complaints this year with Bulgarian resorts and I think it is down to expectations. The Bulgarians must realize that to get to your slopes we must fly over the Alps to get there and it has to be worth our while. For a few years it has been with low prices (in comparison) and acceptable service but is it worth it now?????
You will however always get the die hards that will say Bulgaria is the only place to ski much like those people that go to Benidorm or Blackpool every year for their holidays. I predict that the UK tourists will decline over the coming years and there will be a rise in other nationalities arriving to fill the void.

Its also unfair to generalize.
Bulgarian Ski Instructor is probably partially not wrong in saying that "Bulgaria attracts only the trash from the UK" but trash are usually attracted to trashy resorts (hence the comparison to Blackpool with snow).

If you want to holiday in Bulgaria you have to accept it how it is and adapt to it accordingly.

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