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Paying property tax
Author:Scgfull
posts : 12 (Beginner)Date : 03-07-12 16:55re: Paying property tax
Firstly - Mikey:- my apartment is just over 56sqm.
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all ...
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all ...
Firstly - Mikey:- my apartment is just over 56sqm.
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all the details on.
Do not know about paying over the phone and can't answer as to why they do not appear to send out bills.
We had no fine (interest) - my interpreter negotiated that away as I had been trying to pay but had been refused on a number of occasions due to the lack of something or other.
Why pay - well am not sure of the Bulgarian law so would never assume that the apartment may be forfeit if I did not pay. The amount (in the greater scheme of things) is trivial so why risk it. I have not heard of anyone losing their property yet.....but if times become hard for the councils...
Just because they do not chase it does not mean one should not pay it after all it does cover the removal of garbage and other utility services that we all take advantage of and why give Brits a bad reputation as non payers. I, personally, have only ever met kind generous and helpful Bulgarians and as a result would not wish to appear otherwise to them.
I felt that I had a moral obligation to pay my debts.
My thoughts on the subject and why I pursued this as I did.
HTH
Steve
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all the details on.
Do not know about paying over the phone and can't answer as to why they do not appear to send out bills.
We had no fine (interest) - my interpreter negotiated that away as I had been trying to pay but had been refused on a number of occasions due to the lack of something or other.
Why pay - well am not sure of the Bulgarian law so would never assume that the apartment may be forfeit if I did not pay. The amount (in the greater scheme of things) is trivial so why risk it. I have not heard of anyone losing their property yet.....but if times become hard for the councils...
Just because they do not chase it does not mean one should not pay it after all it does cover the removal of garbage and other utility services that we all take advantage of and why give Brits a bad reputation as non payers. I, personally, have only ever met kind generous and helpful Bulgarians and as a result would not wish to appear otherwise to them.
I felt that I had a moral obligation to pay my debts.
My thoughts on the subject and why I pursued this as I did.
HTH
Steve
re: Paying property tax
Firstly - Mikey:- my apartment is just over 56sqm.
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all ...
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all ...
Firstly - Mikey:- my apartment is just over 56sqm.
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all the details on.
Do not know about paying over the phone and can't answer as to why they do not appear to send out bills.
We had no fine (interest) - my interpreter negotiated that away as I had been trying to pay but had been refused on a number of occasions due to the lack of something or other.
Why pay - well am not sure of the Bulgarian law so would never assume that the apartment may be forfeit if I did not pay. The amount (in the greater scheme of things) is trivial so why risk it. I have not heard of anyone losing their property yet.....but if times become hard for the councils...
Just because they do not chase it does not mean one should not pay it after all it does cover the removal of garbage and other utility services that we all take advantage of and why give Brits a bad reputation as non payers. I, personally, have only ever met kind generous and helpful Bulgarians and as a result would not wish to appear otherwise to them.
I felt that I had a moral obligation to pay my debts.
My thoughts on the subject and why I pursued this as I did.
HTH
Steve
Gareth: - Info needed: Title deeds showing property dimensions and location; Bulstat numbers; a good understanding of Bulgarian or an interpreter; location of the paying office (in my case Chepalare); Payment by Cash (although I understand one can pay directly to be Council's bank account - difficult if you do not know how much is due!) once registered the details are held on a computer and they will give you a printed receipt with all the details on.
Do not know about paying over the phone and can't answer as to why they do not appear to send out bills.
We had no fine (interest) - my interpreter negotiated that away as I had been trying to pay but had been refused on a number of occasions due to the lack of something or other.
Why pay - well am not sure of the Bulgarian law so would never assume that the apartment may be forfeit if I did not pay. The amount (in the greater scheme of things) is trivial so why risk it. I have not heard of anyone losing their property yet.....but if times become hard for the councils...
Just because they do not chase it does not mean one should not pay it after all it does cover the removal of garbage and other utility services that we all take advantage of and why give Brits a bad reputation as non payers. I, personally, have only ever met kind generous and helpful Bulgarians and as a result would not wish to appear otherwise to them.
I felt that I had a moral obligation to pay my debts.
My thoughts on the subject and why I pursued this as I did.
HTH
Steve
re: Paying property tax
Not sure how that was duplicated!
re: Paying property tax
I had a response from the property management company as to why owners are not receiving invoices
Well the reason is the apartment is within a complex so the invoices go to the management company but as they do not have power of attorney they cannot pass on these invoices. ..it is not included within management fee.
As for losing your apartment... Um yea so you think 6 years worth of taxes which total £120 not paid due to no invoice nor any chase up there is risk of losing your E200k ...
Well the reason is the apartment is within a complex so the invoices go to the management company but as they do not have power of attorney they cannot pass on these invoices. ..it is not included within management fee.
As for losing your apartment... Um yea so you think 6 years worth of taxes which total £120 not paid due to no invoice nor any chase up there is risk of losing your E200k ...
I had a response from the property management company as to why owners are not receiving invoices
Well the reason is the apartment is within a complex so the invoices go to the management company but as they do not have power of attorney they cannot pass on these invoices. ..it is not included within management fee.
As for losing your apartment... Um yea so you think 6 years worth of taxes which total £120 not paid due to no invoice nor any chase up there is risk of losing your E200k apartment or villa.... Really you think that?
In addition you cannot not pay it as said because you cannot sell the property without paying the outstanding taxes first.
It's not a matter of trying to not pay it it's a case of show me the cost the bill and it will be paid else.... I have nothing to indicate there is anything to pay nor how much. It also has nothing to do with the kindness or otherwise of local individuals this is purely a council charge which is clearly poorly administrated en masse.
Regardless thank you for the information very helpful.
On my next visit I will try to get it paid to date - oddly I think it's in Razlog so if we stay in Bansko a taxi return is 40 Lev yet the total fees may be not that much more grrrr
Well the reason is the apartment is within a complex so the invoices go to the management company but as they do not have power of attorney they cannot pass on these invoices. ..it is not included within management fee.
As for losing your apartment... Um yea so you think 6 years worth of taxes which total £120 not paid due to no invoice nor any chase up there is risk of losing your E200k apartment or villa.... Really you think that?
In addition you cannot not pay it as said because you cannot sell the property without paying the outstanding taxes first.
It's not a matter of trying to not pay it it's a case of show me the cost the bill and it will be paid else.... I have nothing to indicate there is anything to pay nor how much. It also has nothing to do with the kindness or otherwise of local individuals this is purely a council charge which is clearly poorly administrated en masse.
Regardless thank you for the information very helpful.
On my next visit I will try to get it paid to date - oddly I think it's in Razlog so if we stay in Bansko a taxi return is 40 Lev yet the total fees may be not that much more grrrr
