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the Perelik Project


 the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-01-08 18:16

Anyone heading from Pamps next season - or any season come to that - may be interested to read about the Perelik Project. The claim of the Project is that it will offer 6-months almost guaranteed skiing on he Perelik

Andie

The Perelik Project, Pamporovo
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Rich (---.cgnu.net) 
posts : 421
Date : 04-01-08 18:40

Just in regards to the Perelik project, will this be connected as such to Pamps?? or will it become its own area.. I know they are building new lifts etc in pamps, the 6 man that was under constuction during this winter season.. Didn't know if this was any reflection on what was going on with the perlik project, or this is just Pamps tryin to improve their own situation with openning up more of the mountain etc..
Cheers...
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.164.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-01-08 18:50

It will never offer 6 months skiing that is fairy tail stuff I am affraid the mountains are not high enough.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-01-08 18:54

Rich, put it like this - I believe it is only a 20 minute drive from Pamps and it would be too good an opportunity for Pamporovo to miss out on by not having connections to it. It is not only being hailed as a fantastic place for skiing but friends who have been up to the Perelik say that it is a wonderful place to visit all year round - nature as nature intended.

I eventally hope to live in a village about 45 min drive to the Perelik and I am excited to see the Rhodopes being toasted as an all-year-round location for fantastic holidays. In the summer it has almost a Mediterranean climate and it is soooo beautiful. And, when the road into Greece gets completed, if you want a day on the beach a drive over the border and down onto the Greek beaches will be a possibility and, of course, a it will give a further option of airport to fly in to.

I think I have said enough - I am begining to sound like a travel agent instead of simply a person who is totally captivated by the Rhodopes and her many charms....

Andie
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-01-08 18:56

Daniel - I have taken the locals opinion on this. My project manager is a local, from Smolyan, and if anyone should know if there is snow up there he should. He has skiied in the Rhodopes since he could stand ......

Andie
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Borogirl (---.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 
posts : 1404
Date : 04-01-08 19:04

They could always put a big dome over it all to extend the season - the Arabs would Exclamation Very Happy Very Happy

Andie - that's why your foundations aren't finished - he was off skiing. Crying
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Pamporovo Pete (---.proxy.aol.com) 
posts : 10162
Date : 04-01-08 20:26

Have to say - that Daniel does have a point. Not only is Pamporovo experiencing poor conditions (2 years running) and is the lowest of the 3 main resorts, but if it's anything like the Super Borovets Project it could be donkeys year before it becomes a reality.

Here's hoping though Wink

Pete Cool
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Joff (---.demon.co.uk) 
posts : 103
Date : 04-01-08 20:39

If the Perelik project does happen the intention is that it will be linked to Pamporovo + Chepelare.
There are still some big issues over the fact that the Perelik massif is included in the EU Natura2000 project - there are lots of people against the development on environmental grounds.
Think the 6 months claim is way excessive but there is no doubt that this would greatly extend the ski season - we were there a couple of weeks ago + didnt bother skiing for the first 3 days due to very poor snow - on the 3rd day we drove up to the Perelik + had to turn back as we were worried about getting stuck in the snow!
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-01-08 20:42

Gotta disagree Pete. Conditions this year were great! Loads of snow Jan Feb . It just warmed up early Wink
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (---.cable.ubr03.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-01-08 20:43

It has been talked about for well over ten years, and we all know how quickly things progress in Bulgaria !!. However, at least they have now started with the new 6 man lift into Stoikite.

People already ski / board on Perelik - mainly locals - and yes the snow does last longer on Perelik but 6 months I think is a stretch. I could be wrong, and would love to be wrong - 6 months on the board within walking distance of home !!

Helen
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Borogirl (---.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 
posts : 1404
Date : 04-01-08 20:58

The 2nd drag lift at the top of the gondola at Borovets is to be replaced by a 4 man chair lift. The electricity cables were put in last summer and the chair lift has been ordered - due to arrive this summer for installation.

The water pipes put in at the top of Yasterbets will be finished to connect to water cannons to top up snow on these runs.

AND the diggers are going mad in Samokov this past week, on the site of the new gondola.

So maybe ....... Question Very Happy Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Pamporovo Pete (---.proxy.aol.com) 
posts : 10162
Date : 04-01-08 21:23

Arron - which 6 months do you honestly think Pamporovo can offer.
November 1st to April 30th Surprised

I can only remember on 2 occassions in the last 15 years that quality skiing was available in November and that was not from the 1st.

It may happen on the odd freak year but it will never be available on a consistant basis.

Pete Cool
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (---.midd.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-01-08 22:58

Does the new 6 man connect to Perelik?
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-01-08 23:03

I didn't mention any 6 mths. Just commenting about your post stating poor snow this year and last in Pamps. We had fantastic conditions! That's all Wink

Stevie d no
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (---.cable.ubr03.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-01-08 23:06

The new six man goes from Stoikite to the tower - its part of the overall Perelik project, but doesnt connect to Perelik
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-01-08 23:09

Proposed runs and lifts Wink
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-01-08 23:13

I can't see 6 mths either though Wink you may be lucky in a few high altitude resorts in the alps but cant think of any. Just ones with glaciers Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (---.midd.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-01-08 23:19

cheers
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.2.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-02-08 02:24

Andie your local is either stupid or living in la la land. Perelik mountain is 7000 odd ft high 1000ft lower than the top of Tadorka in Bansko which does not have 6 month skiing. Pamporovo is not high enough even with the Perelik to offer 6 month skiing.

 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Joff (---.demon.co.uk) 
posts : 103
Date : 04-02-08 03:09

Daniel/Helen

6 month skiing is the property developers speaking - it would definitely extend the season but not by that much
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 11:00

I agree six months is a dream - Perelik does have snow later than Pamps, and people do use it later and on into late April, however this doesn't extend the season to 6 months. Also the work on the Perelik side hasnt started yet, so its still some time off yet
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (195.172.86.---) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-02-08 12:33

So in theory, when it's done how will you get from Pamps to Perelik?
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 13:17

Stevie

Arron has posted a link above showing a map of the proposed areas - hope that helps
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 13:22

Daniel, my friend is neither stupid or living in la la land but someone who was born, bred and has lived in the Rhodopes most of his life. So what authority are you to pass comment - as for the pros and cons of the Perelik it is for individuals to do their homework and form their own opinion on the subject.

Unfortunately, there will always be negative people like you who say black is white as and when it suits them.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.154.125.91.rb6.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-02-08 13:34

Just common sense Andie, not negative at all. And what authority do you have? As you do not ski and know sod all about mountains?

IT IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH for 6 month skiing year after year. If lucky you might just get 4 months. Does Bansko have 6 month skiing? And that is a 1000ft higher? So unless your property devloper(I dear anyone see the conection?) has magical powers it will not happen.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 14:01

Daniel, Let's put the record straight here - My friend is not and never will be a property developer and I am simply quoting what he and the majority of the local people are saying - and most appear to be of the same opinion about the Perelik Project.

Granted - I may know sod all skiing but you don't have to ski to take an avid interest in the area in which you plan to live and in particular the mountains which are, not surprisingly ,a predominant feature.

Also, may I suggest you go and have a lie down - you seem hell bent on causing trouble at the moment and your negative comments ARE getting very boring.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 14:21

I have to say that the locals I have spoken with - many of them work in Pamps on the mountain and have also lived there all their lives - do think that opening Perelik will provide a longer season, but that 6 months is a little unrealistic. As I said earlier I know people who do ski and board Perelik towards the end of April, and as early as the start of December - so on a good year I guess thats 5 months.

Like you said Andie, there are many versions and opinions. All I am sure of is that it is several years away yet, and things can always change ! This is Bulgaria afterall.

 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (195.172.86.---) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-02-08 14:26

Can someone tell what the benefit is of the new lift at the top in Snezchanka is. Will it connect Pamps to other slopes or will it just bring another resort to Pamps slopes??
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.216.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-02-08 14:27

Andie I am not hell bent on causing trouble, I do not make negative comments unless neccessary. I will not sit back and let someone post somehting as fact when it clearly is not and never will be. You want 6 month skiing go to North America or the Alps not a 7000ft mountain in Bulgaria.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 14:30

The new lift will go from Stoikite.

There will be two additional runs for when the lift opens, and this may be added to in the future

Links a local village to the resort - there are many apartments in the village now and this will provide a link to the mountain. The people who use the apartments or local hotels in Stoikite already ski / board Pamps, so no additional traffic as such.

Start of the Perelik project - I guess you could call it 'stage 1'

Hope that helps

 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (195.172.86.---) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-02-08 14:33

It does Helen.
Thanks
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 14:41

Your welcome Stevie

I for one really hope the new lift will be running this year, so I can just walk to the lift in morning !! Guess you could say I have a vested interest !!

I would also love there to be 6 months skiing / boarding - realistically I know this wont happen, but I can always dream !

 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (195.172.86.---) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-02-08 14:59

I'm the same as you Helen, also have an interest and would love to see the Bulgarians make a success of it. Plus I would like to see the variety of slopes increased.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 15:13

Fact, Daniel - who said anything about fact. Let me take you back to my first post when I said "The claim of the Project is that it will offer 6-months almost guaranteed skiing on he Perelik ..." the operative word here being "claim" - but again I state that this is the opinion of local people.

And, by the way, who the hell are you to feel that you should be the judge of what is fact and/or fiction when you are clearly not in possession of the final details or outcome of this ongoing project - freedom of speech etc etc .
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 16:28

Mr Jeffrey, at the risk of letting you think that I am stumped for a reply, I have decided not to enter into further dialogue with you or waste any more time on insignificant people and issues.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.167.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-02-08 17:15

Andie as an admin on here it is my job to look and check postings thats who the hell I am. When something is posted up like yours I will not sit back and let it go un challenged. I know that 7000ft is not high enough because Bulgaria does not get the kind of snowfall that the Alps does or North America.

I merely pointed that out to you, but you seem to think you know it all so good luck skiing in May 2030 or whenever thay finish it.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.167.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-02-08 17:16

Andie as an admin on here it is my job to look and check postings thats who the hell I am. When something is posted up like yours I will not sit back and let it go un challenged. I know that 7000ft is not high enough because Bulgaria does not get the kind of snowfall that the Alps does or North America.

I merely pointed that out to you, but you seem to think you know it all so good luck skiing in May 2030 or whenever thay finish it.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : AlpineAngel (---.hers.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-02-08 19:10

I also have invested in Stoikite, we went ski-doing on the cross country/biking track just 5 minutes up from Perelik Palace in March and it was a different world to the other mountain, white trees and bags of snow, I have pictures if anyone wants to see them. Our mini bus driver told us the snow stays till may up there. I was sat in the front seat, I didn't ask him, he just told me loads of info about the village. He said it will be the next ski station.
 
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Author : AlpineAngel (---.hers.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-02-08 19:15

I'm going over in July to bike around the area and see whats going on and how they are getting on with the lift and slopes etc. If anyone who has an interest in it I will be posting photo's in my gallery on mybulgaria site, there's a few pics on there now and I have a few others to put on.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : MONTY (---.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) 
posts : 217
Date : 04-02-08 19:35

Mr Jeffrey are you Mikey in disguise Sniff Sniff, lol
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron & Nicky (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 7
Date : 04-02-08 19:39

When in July AA? We will be there from the 12th to July to mid August
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : lloyd (---.winn.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 102
Date : 04-02-08 19:49

Last year whilst sking with an instructor from the pamporovo ski school he told me that when he did his national service in the army they trained on the perilik mountain and the snow always lasted a month or more than on the slopes in pamps.

lloyd Exclamation
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (193.128.105.---) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 20:02

Its true, the snow does last longer on Perelik, so the season period would be extended. There are a lot of locals that use Perelik in April, and some in March if Snejanka snow is poor.

Speaking to the engineers and the helicopter team in March the new lift to the tower is looking great for 2008 winter, with the head of the ski school on national tv promoting the new lift and runs. Fingers crossed !!!

The building of the runs and putting in of lifts to Perelik hasn't started yet , and as will all things I dont doubt that the plans and intentions are there, but the timescales do tend to vary and get longer - after all the project has been on the table for 10 - 15 years !! There has been opposition to the expansion on Nature grounds, but no news of cancelling the project.





 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : andy (89.243.249.---) 
posts : 819
Date : 04-02-08 20:13

LOOKING AT THE DATE OF THIS POST MAKES ME THINK ITS AN APRIL FOOL MUPPETS Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-02-08 22:31

How do you get to the Perelik is it on the Smoylan road????????????????
Chris
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Bulgaria (---.ipt.aol.com) 
posts : 1
Date : 04-02-08 22:45

I have been on Perelik in may and can assure you I could have skiied!

Its a diffrent world.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Helen (---.cable.ubr03.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 
posts : 265
Date : 04-02-08 22:52

Sounds great to me
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 22:58

Chris, I believe the turning is on the left on the Smolyan to Stoikite road directly after the right hand turning which leads to Pamporovo. Hope this helps
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-02-08 23:18

Cheers Andie,
think i know where you mean have you got a property in this area we have one in Progled
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-02-08 23:32

Hi Chris, I am having a house built in Momchilovtsi and I stay at a friend's guest house in Momchil when I am there. I looked at Progled but had already fallen in love with Momchil from the first moment I saw it.

I will be going back on 18 May and when I am there I am always driving myself out and about to all the surrounding areas researching, taking photos and simply enjoying the beauty of this magical mountain. When I left a couple of weeks ago the fields up in Rozen were covered in lilac crocuses - it was so beautiful and peaceful.

Andie
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-03-08 00:04

Sounds good Andie,
we looked in Momchil ourselves but nothing suitable at the time nice place though, we had nice food there in restaurant the owner spoke perfect English if i remember right it was quite high up overlooking the village you have prob been there, my wife is from Assenovgrad so we are there quite often.
Hope the Perelik project hapens it will open the whole area up to a huge ski area fingers crossed
Chris
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : AlpineAngel (---.popl.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-03-08 00:14

We took the Helmet Cam when we went ski-doing in March, I'll try and put it on You Tube. Anyone who was there in March will see the difference in the snow on Pamps and Perelik.
I nearly had a heart attack, I started to walk up a hill to take a photo, I took one step and my whole leg disappeared, I thought I was a going under.

Hi Aaron and Nicky,

We are going to try and get a flight for 20th or 21st July for a week while my daughter is away with the school. It would be great to meet up.

Tracey & Pete
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-03-08 00:22

AA that would be great you got any pictures?
Chris
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron & Nicky (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 7
Date : 04-03-08 00:33

I think we may have headed for the coast by then. but who knows. Nicky changes her mind like her hair colour Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : AlpineAngel (---.popl.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-03-08 00:34

Hi Chris, Yes I'll send you some Smile
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-03-08 00:36

Hey Arron you ever ventured out to the Perelik peak???
Chris
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-03-08 00:38

AA cheers Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : AlpineAngel (---.popl.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-03-08 01:15

Chris,
I've sent you a couple of pictures to your email. These were took 12th March on the Perelik. Cool
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : chris powell (---.swan.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 78
Date : 04-03-08 01:25

Nice1 AA Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-03-08 01:31

AA could you send them to me as well if you don't mind. Thanks

Andie
 
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Author : AlpineAngel (---.popl.adsl.virgin.net) 
posts : 130
Date : 04-03-08 01:40

Yeah no Probs Smile
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arctic cat (---.proxy.aol.com) 
posts : 7
Date : 04-03-08 10:02

This area is an outstanding beauty spot which after the builders have done their bit has become a local tip!
Perhaps some of the profit made from apartment sales could be spent cleaning up the mess.
This would then make this a pleasent place to stay when the snow dissapears and leaves the mess visable.
PS, The skiing in Pamps is great when there is good snow, and at least there is evidence that the project has started.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Jax2Girl (---.ipt.aol.com) 
posts : 121
Date : 04-05-08 01:09

WOW -

Heated arguements again ...........-I Love Pamps and hope the projects all come off - but 6 month Ski is only a pipe dream. I was in Samokov in June last year - there was still snow on mountain but not ski snow .... but it is still a beautiful holiday and locals were fatastic. I am going to Chepelare this year and I think I will also enjoy, because there is not the same touristy thing going on as in the ski season.

Bulgaria is a fantastic place, being Irish... it reminds me of smaller towns in Ireland 20 years ago, I just hope joining EU doesn't change it as quickly as it did Ireland because there are many negatives that they may not expect

There are still many small villages in Bulgaria that I love to visit and hope the changes are slow - unlike the many who want to see changes yesterday

 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author :  JOHNSKI (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 
posts : 27
Date : 04-05-08 01:42

EURO will change Bulgaira, same as it did to Portugal.Prices went up 20% overnight
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : snow obsession (---.adsl.newnet.co.uk) 
posts : 82
Date : 04-07-08 17:48

"I was in Samokov in June last year - there was still snow on mountain but not ski snow .... "
Exactly, i was in Serre Chavellier at 2800m in June and there was still snow up there at the end of June, but unless the peak depth is about 2m deep at the end of March, there will be nothing skiiable at the end of April.
Just look at Bansko, it has closed even thougth there is still over a metre of snow on top.
Perelik might work if it offered 20KM of pistes above 2000m.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : snow obsession (---.adsl.newnet.co.uk) 
posts : 82
Date : 04-07-08 18:20

....actually, i have just had a look at the shape and aspect of Perilik on Google Earth, it is a much better shaped mountain than pamps for beginners.
Pamps has all the steep slopes facing north whereas Perelik has the opportunity to have a lot of beginners slopes on the plateau above 1900m facing north.
this would rival the beginners slope in pamps - the green from mid to bottom, but 500-600m higher and wider.
A few nice blues/greens at that altitude would be ideal, they would be higher and of a more suitable gradient for beginners than Banskos long blues.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Mat (---.btc-net.bg) 
posts : 481
Date : 04-07-08 19:41

Bansko hasn't closed, its almost fully open. And even when the gondola closes next week, the upper lifts remain open until May for T-shirt skiing.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : mikey (---.pool1.unallocated-107-0.orangehomedsl) 
posts : 350
Date : 04-08-08 03:40

Who has mentionned Mikey somewhere up this topic?Some BG(Pamporovo) lover I guess? Dreamer? leaving in a La la Land? Nice discussion on here.Already Enjoying the ride.Pamporovo?Rodopi mountain=6 months skiing?
Only possible when every visitor starts bringing a large rock each and place it on perelik top and then in a few centuries the hight will rise enough for the 6 months-until then .....


Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : MONTY (---.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) 
posts : 217
Date : 04-08-08 11:20

Mikey correct spelling should read (mentioned) (living) and (height) Very Happy please put your dummy in and stop being so depressing. You really must have been stung badly to be so bitter and twisted about Bulgaria. You know there is help out there if you need it.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.redstone-isp.net) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-08-08 11:32

Do not knock his spelling! he doesn't like at all. Very Happy
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Pamporovo Pete (---.proxy.aol.com) 
posts : 10162
Date : 04-08-08 11:55

He is foreign chaps - so give him a break.

Pete Cool
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Daniel Snell (---.85.125.91.rb4.adsl.brightview.com) 
posts : 4884
Date : 04-08-08 14:53

Mikey LOL!!! (never thought I would say that)
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-11-08 10:05

Agree with monty- Sorry Mikey but you do keep banging on about it Confused
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (---.midd.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-11-08 12:07

Can someone answer these please.

1) Does the new 6 man go to Mechi Chal?
2) If so, does that then connect to Perelik peak?
3) If so, how long do you think that would take?

Cheers All !

Steve
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Joff (---.demon.co.uk) 
posts : 103
Date : 04-11-08 12:46

No - it just goes down to Stoykite.

Plans have been put forward to link Mechi Chal + Chepelare but I reckon that is way in the future
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-11-08 23:26

if you look at the new piste map for mechi chal it shows a gondola heading off the peak maybe towards Pamporovo
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-11-08 23:30

Click maps
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-12-08 01:20

Arron - you have to have a password etc to view the maps Crying Crying

Andie
 
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Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-12-08 09:19

It's not asking me for a password. If you hover over the map link it should bring up the options for maps Confused

Hope that helps Very Happy
 
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Author : Andie (---.ukonline.co.uk) 
posts : 813
Date : 04-12-08 11:43

Thanks Arron - I got the password etc screen up but once I got rid of that I could view the maps - quite impressive eh! Very Happy Very Happy

Andie

PS. Where is your property/apartment Question I stay at Four Seasons Retreat in Momchilovtsi while I am waiting for my house to be built
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : arron (---.lei3.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 2119
Date : 04-12-08 12:13

It's at The Castle of Pamporovo
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : Stevie D (---.midd.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 229
Date : 04-15-08 17:07

So it is possible that Pamps could be left a little isolated from the Perelik project.
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : ANNA (---.ip.fastwebnet.it) 
posts : 158
Date : 04-30-08 10:08

Booze
 
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 re: the Perelik Project
Author : lloyd (---.winn.cable.ntl.com) 
posts : 102
Date : 04-30-08 17:23

That Map looks really promising it will open up a lot more of the area if it links the Shezanka peak to the mechi chai, not only does it show a cable car but also new runs and lifts for chepalare.

Razz
 
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